Talk:pontifier

pontifier
Rfv-sense: English verb: one who pontifies [sic]. pontify is not an English verb according to the OneLook dictionaries, not is pontifier an English noun. DCDuring TALK 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The OED has undefined:, with quotations dating from 1883, but not . However, it makes perfect morphological sense as an agent noun. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 19:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I look forward to citations of valid uses of pontifier as an English noun. Certainly that would be the right way to derive it from pontify, if anyone did so and used it. pontify is a separate matter. Perhaps we need that entry. DCDuring TALK 19:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have confirmed that "pontify" would be verifiable and entered it, though I haven't actually cited it. I am having trouble finding clearly valid usage citations for "pontifier" as an English noun. DCDuring TALK 20:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Does, "Don is just a pontifier. All he does is talk. Durgen" count? http://corruptionfreeanguilla.blogspot.com/2008/09/pontificate.html


 * That's the usage. It would make a good usage example. But we need "durably archived media" for "attestation" (verification) purposes. Blogs and the web don't count. We treat print media and Usenet as durably archived, but we like to use the computer-accessible forms of books, news articles, and scholarly articles as Google has them. "Pontifier" will probably make it, but finding the durably archived supporting citations is a bit of a nuisance sometimes. I had challenged this one because I'd never heard of it and thought that "pontificator" would be used instead. It looks like I will be proven to have challenged it unnecessarily, but getting the citations helps prove that it's a good word and can lead to refining the definition. DCDuring TALK 18:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

RFV failed, English section removed. —Ruakh TALK 20:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)