Talk:presumptive

Tea room discussion
Is there a sense of presumptive meaning 'will assume' as "presumptive president" is elected but not yet inaugurated? I don't see that sense in our definitions. RJFJR 21:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think presumptive is also a synonym for presumed, implicit in the definition “based on presumption.” —Michael Z. 2008-06-26 21:49 z 


 * RJFJR: (found me) I am not sure that I understand "will assume" as an adjective.
 * I get the idea that presumptive included a range of very high probabilities. It excludes things that are true by predicate logic (p=1). On the other end it seems to exclude being merely the favorite (p=.6). I think of it as possibly excluding the proverbial "acts of god", under which "all bets are off". DCDuring TALK 01:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm trying to describe a usage where presumptive president means the same as president elect. (I meant 'will assume' in the verb sense 'assume the office', 'will become' might be better wording.) RJFJR 13:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure it actually would be used that way. To me "presumptive" implies more uncertainty than merely whether the president-elect (and the entity he would preside over) will survive until a date certain. Have you found usage of the term presumptive president (or governor, mayor, senator, congressman, representative, councilman, minister, MP)? DCDuring TALK 14:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)