Talk:psak

RFV discussion: June–November 2014
"To speak without understanding the meaning." Cf WT:RFV, above. - -sche (discuss) 17:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


 * For info, psaking is a current Internet buzzword/protologism mocking . Equinox ◑ 17:34, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "psaking" seems to be more of an attempt of pro-Russian media to create the impression of this being a buzzword, by making false claims about the existence of the would-be word, willful or otherwise; you can check the actual prevalence and the sort of occurrences in, especially if you press "next" reveral times. Among all the world wild web hits, most seem to be talking about the would-be word (mention) rather than actually using it, so "psaking" would probably be unattested even if we allowed any online quotations conveying meaning. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I would not discount it as pure propaganda so quickly. The bulk of uses might be on platforms which are not indexed by Google. But either way, it does not seem to be attestable by our standards. — Keφr 20:05, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What sort of platforms do you mean? Where do you expect to find written uses of would-be English "psak" online? --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:21, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Say, Facebook is indexed by Google rather sparsely, and 4chan only indirectly (by indexing dedicated archive sites). And yet there is a thriving slang there that with current criteria we will never successfully document. Runet has its own social networks for which I would not be surprised to find they disable indexing by external search engines. I find it somewhat plausible that a neologism like that would spread primarily through such inaccessible or ephemeral media. It might as well be real, but we have neither the resources to find evidence, nor the policy to accept it. So do not treat Google Search like an oracle it never claimed to be.
 * On the other hand, I will agree that this is at best a fad and nobody will remember the word in a year. — Keφr 07:56, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If we're having trouble finding cites, I don't think it qualifies for any exception to the year of existence in CFI. It's certainly no olinguito.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:57, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. However I find this "I know it when I see it" test rather unsatisfactory. Any progress with more formal hot word criteria? — Keφr 07:56, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: is widely, widely used in the Orthodox Jewish world, often as part of the phrases "psak din" and "psak halakha", and commonly left untranslated from the Hebrew. Choor monster (talk) 13:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that is irrelevant to the sense being discussed. We could of course add this sense as well. --WikiTiki89 15:53, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What is with the sudden psak and psak translation attack on Wiktionary? Rædi Stædi Yæti  {- skriv til mig -} 03:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Failed. — Keφr 10:54, 16 November 2014 (UTC)