Talk:punk

Added and improved definition. Source: Sexual Slang, by Alan Richter, Ph.D. Although it seems odd that the noun and the verb form originated a century apart, this is cited correctly. --Hypercritic 05:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

punk
Numerous senses. --Connel MacKenzie 17:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Added cites for some sort of tinder/ignition sense. Not sure whether the sense for those things you buy with fireworks is derived from it or the same sense. Cynewulf 18:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't tag that sense as disputed, did I? (Just checking: did I goof?)  --Connel MacKenzie 02:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The "utensil for lighting fireworks" sense is marked countable whereas my cites are for something uncountable. There are about 4 senses for ignition-related things; I'll try to find a round tuit with which to rewrite some of them. Cynewulf 21:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

RFV failed. Senses removed. That entry could use some attention. —Ruakh TALK 20:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed addition of Rochester quotation
I propose the addition of this quotation to those under "prostitute", and would simply have added it were the page not locked for no clear reason:


 * 1) *1600s, John Wilmot, 2nd Earl of Rochester, Regime de Vivre:
 * I rise at eleven, I dine about two, I get drunk before seven, and the next thing I do, I send for my whore, when for fear of a clap, I spend in her hand, and I spew in her lap; Then we quarrel and scold, till I fall fast asleep, When the bitch growing bold, to my pocket does creep. Then slyly she leaves me, and to revenge the affront, At once she bereaves me of money and cunt. If by chance then I wake, hot-headed and drunk, What a coil do I make for the loss of my punk! I storm and I roar, and I fall in a rage. And missing my whore, I bugger my page. Then crop-sick all morning I rail at my men, And in bed I lie yawning till eleven again.

Nat 20:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Use of 'punk' in early 20th Century Indiana
'Punk' in early 20th Century Indiana was used to denote the feeling of weakness that accompannies illness. 'Puny' was used interchangeably with 'punk'.

RasmusB 16:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)RasmusB
 * . – Jberkel (talk) 08:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

punk (tinder)
Well, do we really need two near-identical entries? I'd suggest to merge these two entries. -andy 77.7.122.91 00:15, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) (uncountable) Wood decayed through the influence of fungus or otherwise, and used like tinder; any material used as tinder for lighting fires, such as agaric, dried wood, or touchwood.
 * 2) Tinder made from certain fungi.


 * punk (tinder) is not an entry. What entries are you referring to? —Stephen (Talk) 02:40, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Merged. Thanks. DCDuring TALK 17:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

sexual meaning
Noun meanings 4 and 5 sound virtually identical and should be merged, don't they? Danny lost (talk) 20:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

RFC discussion: July 2011–May 2017
Needs to be split by etymology along lines indicated in current Etymology section. DCDuring TALK 17:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks awesome now --Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 12:12, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Under Prank usage, from the Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour in 1958
In popular culture, Ethel calls Lucy a "P for punk" in the 13th minute of the third episode of the first season of The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour titled Lucy Hunts Uranium which aired on Jan. 3, 1958, for pranking her husband Ricky by having a novelties store print up in the "Las Vegas Star" a fake news headline, "Big Uranium Strike Outside Las Vegas". This is the earliest "prank" usage for punk that I've seen, but I'm not sure if it merits reference in the article. BobEnyart (talk) 17:45, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Spanish pu(n)to
Whatever happened to the Spanish etymology alleging punto “prostitute" which goes back to the OED, which was clearly labeled "phonologically unstraightforward", LOL, removed as "baseless" by IP, leaving a bold-face unlinked self-reference to punk which helps exactly nobodody. Since User:Equinox placed the next edit, by the powers invested in you as admin, by virtue of having not rolled back and thereby acceoting the edit, I blame you for oversight, pun much intended. Hurtmeplenty (talk) 22:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC) I propose to add "Alternative from the application of (attested since [XXX]) to rotten wood dust (C17) or anything worthless (C19) used as tinder, the pornographic sense surfacing only later (C20)." Hurtmeplenty (talk) 22:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * No idea what you're talking about. Please discuss at WT:TR. Thou hast lost an eighth. Equinox ◑ 05:29, 16 February 2024 (UTC)