Talk:quister

RFV discussion: July 2022–February 2023
The current definition is as a noun, "(slang) (chiefly Nonantum, Newton, Massachusetts) An attractive female". I posit that quister is actually an adjective meaning good, awesome, beautiful, etc., since quister mush is translated as a "good, stand-up guy", while quister jival is translated as pretty girl. But I'm not sure any of these words even pass CFI at all. 98.170.164.88 07:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * It’s easy to find British uses of mush on GoogleBooks (search for ‘Oy mush’/‘Hey mush/alright mush’) but there is one durably archived source demonstrating its use in Nonantum, Massachusetts - the same source also mentions quister jival . It’s strange that 3 English slang words of gypsy origin would be used in an Italian community in Massachusetts but apparently chore/mush and wonga are - according to . Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's someone on Twitter using "quister jival", etc.:, . (Is the word quister only used in combination with jival and mush? I haven't found it used with anything else. Maybe these have just become shibboleths.)
 * I found jival and mush in a Newton, MA yearbook, which probably isn't technically durably archived.
 * This book is said to contain some use of Nonantum Lake Talk, but it's not available on Google Books, Archive.org, or libraries near me (AFAICT). I added a citation to based on a preview I found of the first two chapters.
 * Policy question: do we need three citations of this being used in Nonantum, MA to justify the "(US, slang, chiefly Nonantum)" label on mush? The word is certainly citable in UK contexts, but quotations from Nonantum might be harder to find. 98.170.164.88 18:08, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

According to, 🇨🇬 means "good", from 🇨🇬. This adds more indirect evidence to the argument that this is an adjective instead of a noun. The added r at the end could be a "hypercorrective intrusive r", paradoxically common in non-rhotic New England speech; but this is just a guess. 98.170.164.88 05:33, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

RFV Failed Ioaxxere (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

jival
Mostly just finding mentions. It might be used in Bottle Alley, but it's only mentioned in the preview. 98.170.164.88 20:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Etymologically, this seems to be from some variant of 🇨🇬 (cf. forms like ). If not, then perhaps + some suffix, but this is much less likely. 98.170.164.88 05:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

RFV Failed Ioaxxere (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

dikki ki dotti
Same as above. 98.170.164.88 20:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Etymologically, I would guess "dikki" is related to 🇨🇬 / 🇨🇬, and "dotti" is related to 🇨🇬. 98.170.164.88 05:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Complicating matters, Lake Lingo Dictionary gives "Dicky Kai Dotti = Look at that Girl". 98.170.164.88 05:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

RFV Failed Ioaxxere (talk) 19:42, 9 February 2023 (UTC)