Talk:redneck

RFV discussion
On June 13, 2007, an RFV-sense was requested and none provided as of 9/5/07 as follows:--Halliburton Shill 22:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Sense 2, "blue-collar worker that bucks...." No references, no comparable definitions in other dictionaries.--Halliburton Shill 11:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

RFVfailed - copying to redneck discussion page.--Halliburton Shill 21:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Etymology
There is a folk etymology that somehow this word comes from sunburned necks which is provably incorrect so I have deleted it.

It is well-documented that this term comes from the labor unrest in the coal mining regions of Pennsylvania and West Virginia. The word probably originated in the "Red Neck War" which took place in the summer of 1921 in West Virginia. In this event thousands of UMWA miners militarized and marched on Charleston. The miner army's only uniform was the red bandana they all wore around their necks. After this event it was common for Pinkerton agents, police and other authorities to refer to the miners as "red necks" and eventually the term became generalized to mean any rural worker.John Chamberlain 19:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC) By 1900, "rednecks" was in common use to designate the political factions inside the Democratic Party comprising poor white farmers in the South. The same group was also often called the "wool hat boys" (for they opposed the rich men, who wore expensive silk hats). A newspaper notice in Mississippi in August 1891 called on rednecks to rally at the polls at the upcoming primary election: "Primary on the 25th.
 * Where is it "well-documented"? Ƿidsiþ 19:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The word "redneck" was widely used long before 1921. See the following citation from Wikipedia:

And the 'rednecks' will be there.

And the 'Yaller-heels' will be there, also.

And the 'hayseeds' and 'gray dillers,' they'll be there, too.

And the 'subordinates' and 'subalterns' will be there to rebuke their slanderers and traducers.

And the men who pay ten, twenty, thirty, etc. etc. per cent on borrowed money will be on hand, and they'll remember it, too."

By 1910, the political supporters of the Mississippi Democratic Party politician James K. Vardaman—chiefly poor white farmers—began to describe themselves proudly as "rednecks," even to the point of wearing red neckerchiefs to political rallies and picnics.


 * Why isn't some of this information about pre-1921 usages of this term (for definition #1) added to the entry? 173.88.246.138 21:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * i think it's a bit out of scope for a dictionary entry. usually we rely on Wikipedia for that, since most terms with so much information about their history will also qualify for a separate wikipedia article. in this case redneck covers more than just the 1st definition. — Soap — 12:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)