Talk:restriall

RFV discussion: June–December 2023
"(heraldry) Divided barwise, palewise and pilewise." This is a misunderstanding by Chambers of Hugh Clark saying "RESTRIALL, an ancient term for barry, paly and pily": Guillim says restriall means "able to abide the stresse and force of any triall" and says piles, pales, bends, and barres are examples of restriall bearings (rather than restrial meaning "simultaneously barry, paly, and pily"). But the only uses of the term I can find are by John Ruskin, and the Middle English Book of St Albans. It may be findable, though: there are a lot of spellings (restrial, restryal, restryall...), they get scannoed a lot of ways (Refirial, Rejtriall, reftriall...), and I'm sure there are some I haven't thought of to search for. - -sche (discuss) 06:24, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV passed P. Sovjunk (talk) 14:41, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Reopening. The cites provided are, in order: a mention, Middle English, a mention in a glossary, John Ruskin (a mention), John Ruskin again (but a use this time). So we only have one usable cite. This, that and the other (talk) 00:42, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree (and said so above)... and Ruskin may not mean what we define the term as meaning, since several of the other cites clarify that barry/paly/pily is just one example of restriall arms, not what restriall means. I wonder what the etymology is; it resembles a blend of "resist" and "trial"; perhaps if we knew the etymology we might identify other likely spellings, but as it is I think this fails. - -sche (discuss) 01:01, 4 October 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV failed Denazz (talk) 22:28, 10 December 2023 (UTC)