Talk:roses are red

Deletion debate
Popularly quoted verse. Equinox ◑ 21:14, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * We do have knock knock, this seems to be closer to that than it is to say, your country needs you. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:16, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete this. Also the "used to introduce a knock-knock joke" sense of knock knock. See also [[talk:how do I get to Carnegie Hall]]. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 15:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm in favor of deletion. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I agree, although I want to keep once upon a time, and I can't quite say why this is different. < class="latinx">Ƿidsiþ 16:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Once upon a time is defined badly, as "the traditional beginning of children’s stories, especially fairy tales". It should be "once, at a time in the past", or something, with children's stories mentioned in a usage note. It's used elsewhere, too, attestably, and, though it seems to be SoP (cf. "upon his death"), would be expected to use commas if SoP (cf. "once, upon John's passing, she had wept"). I'm not sure whether we should keep it once corrected. (Not that it's up for deletion.) &#x200b;—msh210℠ 17:35, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, roses are red is only about 25% more frequent at bgc than it was a dark and stormy night, whereas once upon a time is 20 times more popular. Also once upon a time is a fossilized set phrase with an archaic-to-obsolete use of "upon", I think. roses are red is merely a literal catchphrase that reminds us of the rhyme of which it is a part. DCDuring TALK 19:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Fails, no controversy here. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:13, 27 April 2010 (UTC)