Talk:royal assassin

this doesn't strick me as something that needs its own definition --Eean 05:40, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

RFD discussion: June–September 2022
SOP. Old Man Consequences (talk) 18:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Maybe WT:FRIED/WT:DWARF applies since a "royal assassin" is not an assassin who is royal. But then again, could you make the same argument for "presidential assassin", etc.? 98.170.164.88 18:57, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Compare also “royal cook”, “royal dressmaker”, “royal minstrel”, ”royal scribe”, ... --Lambiam 22:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Ah, but the royal cook is employed by the royals, while the royal assassin is not (according to this definition): I would imagine that an assassin hired by the king could also be a "royal assassin", though. Delete. Equinox ◑ 22:12, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It does indeed mean an assassin hired by the king in this book (see page 120, for example) and refers to an assassin who is himself royal (Peter the Cruel) here and an assassin of a royal here . Delete as SOP. Overlordnat1 (talk) 22:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Good sleuthing! 98.170.164.88 07:12, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete for nominator’s reason. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep because this isn't SOP if our current definition is accurate. This is an issue for RFV. Binarystep (talk) 08:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * See comments above, Binarystep: the current definition is just one of many possible, attestable definitions, which cover all the major senses of "royal" re monarchs. Equinox ◑ 10:50, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep as pointed out there are three meanings, not all of which are obvious as SOP. I have updated the definitions per my understanding. Facts707 (talk) 10:42, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. As pointed out there are three meanings, all of which are a sense of applied to a sense of . Compare uses of royal killer, which can mean a king-slayer but also a slaying monarch.  --Lambiam 11:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even given the updated definitions, this still seems very SOP to me. You could easily replace "royal" with "male", "female", "presidential", "political", etc. BigDom 06:03, 30 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I find it hard to imagine that a "female assassin" could be a person (of any sex) who kills females... though I suppose it's conceivable. Probably better to stick with the evidenced examples above, ha. Equinox ◑ 06:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. For nominator's reason. Sartma (talk) 07:41, 30 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - the three senses just prove that this is SOP, because "royal" can be both an adjective or an attributive noun in any sense, and the various meanings can be directly derived from that. For it to escape being SOP, it needs to be greater or less than the sum: for example, has an additional legal element not derived from either word (i.e. it's greater than the sum), while a  cannot refer to the Queen flushing the toilet (i.e. it's less than the sum). Theknightwho (talk) 22:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete; quite SOP. - -sche (discuss) 09:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 19:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)