Talk:sensible à la casse

RFD discussion: March–July 2023
French SOP. PUC – 13:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Certainly not. If you were proposing "prendre pour une pomme" why not, this could be disputable, but considering the multiple senses of "casse" this request is nearly nonsensical. 176.128.237.169 22:03, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * What's nonsensical is your rationale. PUC – 21:40, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The nouns and  each have multiple senses, but that is not a valid argument for the inclusion of the common combination “&thinsp;”. The context of uses of sensible à la casse will imply the typographical sense.  --Lambiam 10:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This is quite a fixed expression in this context, as are "case-sensitive" and "case-insensitive" in English I suppose, and the translation is far from being obvious if you don't know that expression in French. The word "casse" in the typographic sense is not very usual in common speech (where the colloquial sense "damage" is much more frequent), except when what you're talking about is related to typography. You said that there we no need of en entry "tool set", however we have an entry "toolset", which is indeed defined as a collection of tools but is also a common fixed expression to designate that. 176.128.237.169 14:21, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I do not find the argument persuasive. I agree that this is a standard expression in this context, but so are sensible au froid, sensible à la chaleur and sensible a l’humidité in other contexts, which are nevertheless clearly SOP. I also agree that in isolation another sense of is more common; the use for an aspect of a character rather than a physical box used to store movable type is a relatively new semantic calque from English, mainly restricted to word processing. However, I maintain that in the contexts in which this word is used in that sense, the more usual sense is obviously not applicable. A user who encounters the word in such a context and does not understand it, is IMO very unlikely to look up the full collocation sensible à la casse here. If the term is kept, the argument implies we should also include,  and , all of which can be attested. And why stop there? Other common uses of casse in this sense include  and . Even  gets a fair number of Google Books search hits.  --Lambiam 15:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A (nonnative French-speaking) user encountering such an expression might well search for the full collocation, and an allophone who does not know how to say "case-sensitive" (or any equivalent expression in their native language) in French will certainly do. I do not think "indifférent à la casse" is very common (I didn't find any occurrence in Google Ngram, contrary to "sensible à la casse" and Google gives a lot more results for "sensible à la casse" than for "indifférent à la casse"). And as the "if this is kept, a lot of more SOP will be added based on your argument" is pure conjecture, my argument only applies to this expression in particular – it may be for other expressions for sure, but not necessarily. Evaluating if a collocation is SOP or not is often "case-by-case" work (no pun intended). 176.128.237.169 17:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I've deleted this blatant SOP. PUC – 21:41, 26 July 2023 (UTC)