Talk:signed Mass card

RFD discussion: July–October 2018
I'm a bit confused on how this isn't signed + Mass card. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 02:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Me too. You probably have to be a Roman Catholic to appreciate the difference. DonnanZ (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Anything to do with the sale of indulgencies? SemperBlotto (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Roman Catholic weighing in. It seems SOP to me (a Google search yields terms like "stamped Mass card" and "pre-signed Mass card" which support that conclusion). And no, it's not directly related to the sale of indulgences, but the latter was the distortion/development of a similar practice. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:05, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That was an implied delete, in case it wasn't clear., what say you? Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I will abstain, not being a Catholic I know nothing about it. DonnanZ (talk) 21:46, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  08:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. (Both are my original entries). I can't see any definition of sign that matches the description. It's not a signature that is added to the card, it's a stamp, indicating that a donation has been made to the parish.--Dmol (talk) 09:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, there's "To seal (a document etc.) with an identifying seal or symbol" along with "To validate or ratify (a document) by writing one's signature on it," which could make it clear enough. There could well be a sense missing from "sign" as well. I'm willing to defer to your judgement, however and change my vote to a tentative keep. I noted above, however, that "stamped Mass-card" exists as well, so "signed Mass card" seems to be more of an imprecision in language than anything. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 12:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Also a Roman Catholic--I concur with 's initial thoughts--there isn't really much to a signed Mass card than signed + Mass card. The fact that "unsigned Mass card" is in use is indicative of this.  Dmol's thought gives me pause, but they can in fact be signed or stamped--the method of validation is irrelevant.  I think, as Andrew said, that it's just imprecise language.  Another example: we sign a check to validate it, even if "signing" means a secretary stamps it. --SanctMinimalicen (talk) 16:49, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above. Per utramque cavernam 12:12, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm making my vote explicitly delete, per the above discussion. BTW, SanctMinimalicen, I didn't get your ping. Make sure you re-sign your posts if you add a ping, because it's adding those tildes that activates it (assuming that's why it didn't work). Andrew Sheedy (talk) 18:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oops--I didn't realise that. Thanks for letting me know! -SanctMinimalicen (talk) 00:04, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Deleted. — SGconlaw (talk) 19:16, 20 October 2018 (UTC)