Talk:sourstuff

This entry seems very odd and problematic. In particular: 1. Can someone confirm (since Google won't show me) that the sic on the 2011 citation is really correct? Why would all the words be mashed together like that? 2. Do the three "oxygen" citations really all mean that? Some seem invented as nonce-words to serve a particular science-fiction storyline. Equinox ◑ 03:26, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No, the book does not run the words together like that ("sour stuff" not "sourstuff"): http://i.imgur.com/NGVNpFJ.png DTLHS (talk) 03:31, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * However, the "oxygen" citations are legit. Kiwima (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The vinegar was taken from dialectal usage. Please see here []. Granted, it's spelt with a hyphen Leasnam (talk) 23:13, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm moving the above to Requests_for_verification Leasnam (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

RFV discussion: October 2016–April 2017
1. Sour things. 2. Vinegar. This entry had some cites at first, but they have been removed as scannos/errors; see its talk page. Equinox ◑ 03:38, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Might as well rfv the whole thing: for the "oxygen" sense the "1898" Analog quote has the wrong date, and is by Poul Anderson, the author of the third quote. In fact, they're probably both excerpts from the same older piece, which is an attempt to construct an alternate-reality version of what English would be like without words of French, Latin or Greek origin. That piece has so many made-up words it's debatable whether it's really English as we know it. More to the point, it's all within-universe: its references to sourstuff are of the same sort as references in The Lord of the Rings to mithril and entwash. The other quote starts out with "it's what the Germans call..." and is sort of calqued German. In fact, everything I could find on Google Books is like that: explicitly identified as German or Latin or Greek, and converted from those languages by a mechanical process of translating the parts. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:59, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

(moved from Talk:sourstuff) This entry seems very odd and problematic. In particular: 1. Can someone confirm (since Google won't show me) that the sic on the 2011 citation is really correct? Why would all the words be mashed together like that? 2. Do the three "oxygen" citations really all mean that? Some seem invented as nonce-words to serve a particular science-fiction storyline. Equinox ◑ 03:26, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No, the book does not run the words together like that ("sour stuff" not "sourstuff"): http://i.imgur.com/NGVNpFJ.png DTLHS (talk) 03:31, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * However, the "oxygen" citations are legit. Kiwima (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The vinegar was taken from dialectal usage. Please see here []. Granted, it's spelt with a hyphen Leasnam (talk) 23:13, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Senses 1 and 2 RFV failed. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:16, 14 April 2017 (UTC)