Talk:sowl

RFV discussion: October–November 2018
All senses of etymology 1. DTLHS (talk) 17:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but perhaps in future wait till after the entry appears on WOTD? :-) — SGconlaw (talk) 18:17, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * If it can't be verified it shouldn't be featured. DTLHS (talk) 18:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it's asking a lot to expect me to verify all nominations before listing them. Sometimes it's not obvious that they are unverifiable or have other problems (for example, ). — SGconlaw (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you delay it for a month? DTLHS (talk) 18:58, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I could relist it in February 2019 or beyond ... Scratch that – silly me, I could just swap two WOTDs in October and November, couldn't I? — SGconlaw (talk) 19:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, is now listed for WOTD on 2 December 2018. — SGconlaw (talk) 02:54, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

This is a tough one! Every time I think I found something, it turns out to be "fowl". I did find one clear quote, which I added to definition 1. Two more ambiguous quotes I added to the citations page. There's also a quote from Piers Plowman, but I didn't bother with that because its Middle English. Kiwima (talk) 22:11, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You might have to try looking for the alternative forms. (Actually, I already included the Piers Plowman quote yesterday ...) — SGconlaw (talk) 01:40, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, the 2011 quotation is merely a paraphrase of the 1857 one. — SGconlaw (talk) 02:54, 2 October 2018 (UTC)


 * As for alternate forms, the song "soul cake" is related to etymology 1. e.g.:
 * which also yields:
 * Kiwima (talk) 03:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Which sense of sowl would this be, though? Isn't it just soul, because the cake is given in return for the recipient praying for the soul of someone deceased? — SGconlaw (talk) 03:50, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It is the same cultural practice of "sowling" or "souling". I suspect that the "praying for the soul" is a later addition once the original sense of the word was lost. Kiwima (talk) 04:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. — SGconlaw (talk) 05:47, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Which sense of sowl would this be, though? Isn't it just soul, because the cake is given in return for the recipient praying for the soul of someone deceased? — SGconlaw (talk) 03:50, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It is the same cultural practice of "sowling" or "souling". I suspect that the "praying for the soul" is a later addition once the original sense of the word was lost. Kiwima (talk) 04:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. — SGconlaw (talk) 05:47, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

RFV-resolved - The first sense passes, the others fail. Kiwima (talk) 21:10, 2 November 2018 (UTC)