Talk:spoiled brat

Does this have some "set phrase" magic about it? Equinox ◑ 15:57, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

RFD discussion: August–November 2018
spoiled + brat Per utramque cavernam 11:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete along with half of what ever made. --XY3999 (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as SoP. — SGconlaw (talk) 11:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete (as Talk:absent-minded professor should have been!). Equinox ◑ 11:17, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I suspect the def is wrong too: "a child who always gets what they want" but is truly thankful and humble would not be a spoiled brat. Equinox ◑ 11:17, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "A child who always gets what they want without being grateful", a spoilt brat probably wouldn't admit to being a spoilt brat. DonnanZ (talk) 08:12, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. --Robbie SWE (talk) 06:28, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fay Freak (talk) 18:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sum of parts. Delete. ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 00:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. - -sche (discuss) 05:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Feels inclusion-worthy, but I don't know which card to play. may explain why this may feel so: brats are rather often spoiled, on the phrase level. It might be the case of lexicalized pleonasm, or set-phrasey pleonasm? Whatever. Interestingly, there is Spoiled child mentioning "spoiled brat", which of course has almost no force. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Lately I've started to feel that one of our weaknesses, especially for English language learners, is that we don't cover collocations very well. (How would a reader of our dictionary know, for instance, that "create opportunities" is much more common than "make opportunities"?) I think "spoiled brat" is sum-of-parts, but it's a very common collocation, and it would be nice if our dictionary signaled that to the reader somehow. Maybe an example sentence at spoil or brat would be enough. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:33, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * People, such as myself, have suggested that a collocation namespace, or a section in entries for collocations, should be created, but unfortunately this hasn't garnered enough support to become a reality. The unfortunate consequence is that we keep barely-NSOP phrases and delete others that are barely SOP. Hopefully one day we'll figure out a way to include them without violating CFI (we will never serve non-native speakers well, or be a decent translation dictionary until we do!). Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:48, 23 September 2018 (UTC)


 * RFD failed. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)