Talk:stiff peaks

RFD
== stiff peaks ==

Sum of parts? Plural only? I could well be wrong. SemperBlotto (talk) 09:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Well you'd never try to beat an egg into a single stiff peak. But delete, they are undoubtedly peaks which are stiff. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I feel like this is a technical term in cooking. Egg whites that have been beaten to stiff peaks do not have peaks that are "rigid, hard to bend, inflexible" (per our definition of stiff); in fact they can be easily pushed over with your finger. They're merely stiff enough to support their own weight. See for definitions of when beaten egg-white peaks are soft, firm, and stiff. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It's just relative. "Loud" in music isn't the same as "loud" in aircraft testing. Equinox ◑ 19:32, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is also a good anchor for translation to other languages. An of course a technical concept in cooking. Not only stiff peaks, it includes more. . It would be here before. Take A LOT (days) of time to find the right term and the translation --Lagoset (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. A culinary sense may or may not need to be added to "stiff", but one can "beat eggs until they are stiff", etc, showing that this phrase is not idiomatic. - -sche (discuss) 21:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Why not added before to peaks? (plural). Can see the result now?. --Lagoset (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It is preposterous to claims that this is plural only. This Google Groups search already provides abundant UseNet attestation of the singular.
 * Out of the context of food preparation you could not be sure what was being referred to. In context it is obvious SoP. Delete. DCDuring TALK 21:53, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 18 entries, compared to 2650 in the plural!!. It is really strange cannot see a definition in Wiktionary :-?, when you own see a wide use in culinary arts.--Lagoset (talk) 23:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * See only and plurale tantum ("plural only"). DCDuring TALK 00:23, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. What can I say, I like to cook. I know exactly what this phrase means in that context, and it is not exactly what one would think from saying "stiff" and "peak". bd2412 T 00:50, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is like medium rare, well done, sunny side up, and over easy. —Stephen (Talk) 10:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, I'm a native speaker and it wasn't quite clear to me what it meant, even when referring to eggs. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 07:57, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. What Equinox said and what -sche said. SOP. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 03:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I have added a culinary sense to stiff — as I noted above, one can "beat egg whites until they are stiff", etc, so stiff has a culinary sense regardless of the collocation stiff peaks. I've also added an eggy citation, which uses both stiff and peak but not stiff peaks, to peak. - -sche (discuss) 20:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to be picayune, cream can also be whipped/beaten to form stiff peaks. bd2412 T 21:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing and editing the entries accordingly. - -sche (discuss) 15:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I would add for comparison that we have a culinary sense for medium and for rare, and that does not preclude our having medium rare. bd2412 T 16:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It is mainly / huge majoritary / mainstream plural and a culinary concept, very often used. meringue are egg whites stiff peaks with sugar. Time to quit rfd.--Lagoset (talk) 06:14, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Kept; clear absence of consensus to delete. bd2412 T 13:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)