Talk:student teacher

RFD discussion: December 2018
Isn't this just sum-of-parts? Kiwima (talk) 23:58, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'd say the meaning is not obvious from the sum of the parts. Student + teacher could plausibly mean "teacher who teaches students" or "student in a class who acts as teacher for a day", for instance. But in fact the term means neither of those things—it only means someone who's teaching a class as part of teacher training, under the supervision of an experienced teacher. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:00, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Is the person a teacher of students, or a student of teaching.  And the term is also used in “student teacher meeting”, and has a different meaning there.--Dmol (talk) 02:09, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 02:15, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per Granger. DonnanZ (talk) 11:29, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, non-SOP. - TheDaveRoss  13:40, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Purplebackpack89 22:27, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hmm, can't "student X" have this kind of meaning (someone acting as an X as part of training) with numerous other Xs, e.g. student driver,, student doctor? (Well, I see we have an entry for the latter!) - -sche (discuss) 22:41, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * That's interesting. I'm familiar with "student driver" but unfamiliar with "student carpenter" and "student doctor". (I notice that student doctor has a fairly specific meaning, if the entry is correct.) Is there a missing sense of student meaning something like "trainee/apprentice who is doing an activity under the supervision of someone experienced"?
 * Even so, this term might be keepable by the fried egg test, because the meaning of "student teacher" is limited in the ways I described above (an argument that wouldn't apply to "student carpenter", for instance, because carpenters don't normally have anything to do with students). —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've heard anyone talk about "student carpenters" before either, "carpenter" was just one of the first professions that came to mind where someone would typically be a student of the trade before being a full practitioner, and I googled and sure enough the "student _" version is attested. is also attested (one of the first hits for  contrasts "'student priests,' who were trained for Buddhist learning, and 'working priests'"), and, etc. I don't know if it's a different sense of student or not: it's arguably just that the person is an X, but not a fully certified X, just a student X (in sense 2? a person receiving education). Things like "student journalists" seem to show that it's in a continuum with the usual sense, since those are students in sense 2 (who are also taking other classes), in addition to being journalists-in-training. - -sche (discuss) 05:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I am positive (based on e.g. ) that, especially historically and outside the West, an &lit sense of "student doctor" is attested which our current definition merely reflects a Western legal formalization and regulation of. - -sche (discuss) 05:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the lemming criterion. This is SOP however, for it is simply a coordinate compound. ←₰-→  Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  08:10, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it's not SOP, but whatever. Per utramque cavernam 17:05, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * RFD kept per plentiful consesus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)