Talk:succumb

Missing noun?
This looks like a noun:


 * 1882, Thomas Bendyshe, The Last Christian (page 42)
 * You must believe that with one single breath / There is a Power that can do to death, / Aye! not to death, but absolute nothingness, / The forces of the immeasurable abyss, / And light, and heat, and motion make succumb / To nothing, in a nothingless vacuum;

Equinox ◑ 20:53, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I believe that "succumb" is used as a verb here, not a noun.
 * Some other examples of this usage of causative/auxiliary "make" + verb include:
 * All of these usages with "make" as a causative auxiliary verb seem to require verbs that connote helplessness or obligation.
 * I believe that “make succumb”, specifically, may be an anglicization of the French faire succomber. Another data point supporting this (see also: "Topics in French Syntax" quote above) is that the French company Jean Paul Gaultier markets its Classique perfume with the phrase "The irresistible tentation, a perfume of contrasts, carnal and inebriant, to seduce and make succumb"—in the original French, Un parfum de contrastes, charnel et enivrant, pour séduire et faire succomber.
 * Hermes Thrice Great (talk) 09:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * All of these usages with "make" as a causative auxiliary verb seem to require verbs that connote helplessness or obligation.
 * I believe that “make succumb”, specifically, may be an anglicization of the French faire succomber. Another data point supporting this (see also: "Topics in French Syntax" quote above) is that the French company Jean Paul Gaultier markets its Classique perfume with the phrase "The irresistible tentation, a perfume of contrasts, carnal and inebriant, to seduce and make succumb"—in the original French, Un parfum de contrastes, charnel et enivrant, pour séduire et faire succomber.
 * Hermes Thrice Great (talk) 09:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * All of these usages with "make" as a causative auxiliary verb seem to require verbs that connote helplessness or obligation.
 * I believe that “make succumb”, specifically, may be an anglicization of the French faire succomber. Another data point supporting this (see also: "Topics in French Syntax" quote above) is that the French company Jean Paul Gaultier markets its Classique perfume with the phrase "The irresistible tentation, a perfume of contrasts, carnal and inebriant, to seduce and make succumb"—in the original French, Un parfum de contrastes, charnel et enivrant, pour séduire et faire succomber.
 * Hermes Thrice Great (talk) 09:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hermes Thrice Great (talk) 09:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)