Talk:suicide cable

RFV debate
Nothing obvious on Google book search. Needs severe cleanup if OK. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Forget "Google book" search: do a regular Google search for "suicide cable", and you will find tons of hits discussing suicide cables. This term is in common, widespread usage. To my reading, this clearly meets the Wiktionary attestation criteria. Granted: the term is informal. --Dharasty (talk) 16:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Google hits are not usually considered durable as websites tend to get deleted. Not in clear widespread use, the exact opposite in fact, I've never heard of it. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure how one person saying "they haven't heard of it" means that it NOT it widespread use. (I'm a literate guy, and I still find words / phrases I've never heard of. It doesn't mean they aren't words / phrases.)  I think being readily able to find hundreds of hits on Google search IS a sign of "widespread use".  I'm not saying that any one of those sites is "durable", but propose the number of hits alone demonstrates the "widespread use". --Dharasty (talk) 19:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It's attested on Usenet if someone will type the citations up:, , . (Examples of how to type up Usenet citations can be found here]].) - -sche (discuss) 18:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think the second citation (of your three) is related. I'll add the first (as it has a good sample sentence), plus several others of similar provenence.  (I'm not sure why "Usenet" is "more credible" than the other forums I've found online discussing electrical wiring, so I'll include a few of those, too.)  I'll move the links I placed as "references" in to citations. --Dharasty (talk) 19:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Usenet is considered a durably archived source for the purposes of RFV; websites are not. So website citations don't count.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Clear widespread use is for things like table, chair, house, etc. Basically to avoid bad RFVs where the meaning is certainly right and getting contributors to add citations is a waste of time. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:35, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Cited. - -sche (discuss) 02:13, 1 January 2013 (UTC)