Talk:täma

RFV discussion: February–May 2014
Tagged for speedy deletion by User:Neitrāls vārds with the note: "a typo? dicts don't list it, proper entries at tämā and ta", but I felt there was just enough doubt as to its nonexistence to merit verification before deletion. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, Neitrāls seems to know his Livonian. He has added several Livonian entries. Spelling "täma" would indicate a "short" a in the end and it is thus not a standard spelling for "tämā" which ends in a "long" vowel. In Livonian a dash above a vowel indicates that it is pronounced "long". --Hekaheka (talk) 03:28, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, unnominated. Sjögren's dictionary (as old as it may be) had it, since this is a pronoun maybe another alt form won't hurt. However, old books like Sjögren's dictionary need to be used with discretion, for example, he lists one as ükš because the dict. was compiled before ü fronted to i (hence ikš). Also plural of tas as tasūd (as opposed to Viitso's tassõd), etc. Neitrāls vārds (talk) 11:24, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It sounds like it might be a good idea to tag this form "archaic". In fact, I just did it. Feel free to revert, if you disagree. --Hekaheka (talk) 11:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if ikš was in fact ükš at the time Sjögren was writing, then having an entry for ükš that describes it as an (and having similar entries for täma, etc) seems like the best thing to do. - -sche (discuss) 20:21, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks the best. I actually went and created ükš, complete with a partial declension table, a definite contender for the "top 100 most contrived/most pretentious entries on Wiktionary" :D Neitrāls vārds (talk) 17:59, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Kept as an tämā. - -sche (discuss) 20:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)