Talk:tanka

RFV discussion: October 2017
Rfv-sense: Is this sense verified? One must find quotations. --123.136.106.247 08:30, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

cited, along with the ethnic group after which the boats are called. Kiwima (talk) 05:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 11:08, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

RFV discussion: November–December 2021
English, specifically etym 2 in the entry as currently structured on 2021-11-19.

I can't confirm this used in English. The etym includes two senses:


 * 1) a strong, forceful expression
 * 2) a Tibetan painting of the Buddha on fabric.

Both are off as translations of the etymon, 🇨🇬. The second sense about a Tibetan painting appears to be a flat-out mistake, as a strange spelling (misspelling?) of Tibetan-derived, wholly unrelated to the purported Japanese etymon.

This is hard for me to search for in English; I tried to try to find English uses unrelated to the attested poem-related sense, but no dice. I can't tell if this is because etym 2 is bogus, or just that my google-fu is failing me.

Can anyone else find any evidence for this as an English term, with either of the given senses? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 23:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The second sense is cited as an alternative form of . I moved it to its own etymology. This, that and the other (talk) 08:38, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * added the "strong, forceful expression" sense in 2009; I wonder if they can shed any light on this. This, that and the other (talk) 12:43, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

I can find the "strong, forceful expression", but only italicized:

Kiwima (talk) 10:17, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you . Those look to me like cases of consciously using a Japanese term as Japanese, within an English-laguage context.  The publication titles are also all related to Japanese culture or to professional translation, further suggesting that this might be code switching.
 * What do others think? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 01:08, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree it looks like code-switching, which is why I pointed out the italics. It seems most often to appear in an attempt to translate tanka wo kitta (cut a tanka), because there is no easy way to translate the tanka part). OTOH, they all seem to assume the reader/listener understands what tanka means. Kiwima (talk) 21:11, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Re: "they all seem to assume the reader/listener understands what tanka means", I suspect that that's where the cultural context of the publications comes into play. It's also possible that the authors might explain tanka somewhere earlier in the texts, but without reading them through, that's harder to identify.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:09, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

RFV-resolved. The forceful expression fails as code-switching. Kiwima (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)