Talk:the bill, please

The grammar for the arabic translation is wrong.
 * So why don't you correct it? 79.85.113.95 13:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I did and it was cancelled


 * Let me explain, we abbreviate the Arabic grammar here. Your edit, which had "min faDlika" for the male wasn't 100% accurate, anyway it should be "min faDluka" strictly speaking. Here we don't use case endings for Arabic, making spoken dialects and Fus-ha kind of similar, so a trip is "riHla", not "riHlatun". If you still disagree, you can discuss at Wiktionary_talk:About_Arabic or at WT:BP. --Anatoli 14:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Well you don't abbreviate anything here, you're just mixing up your case endings (subject and indirect) and your dialects (fusha and spoken). No case ending for single words is fine, but in phrases it is plainly incorrect.


 * It's not abbreviated as in min faDluk(a)/min faDluki but simply missing - min faDlak/min faDlak. This style is used by your countrymen (if you're are Egyptian) in some popular textbooks, even when teaching MSA. We use "maa ismak"/"maa ismik" for enclitic pronouns. It's just a convention. It's way too common to say it's incorrect. As I said, we don't use strict grammar, not even pausal formal (when the enclitic pronouns are attached in this case) but a mixture of colloquialisms and Fus-ha. What you're referring to is not "grammar" (as in your first sentence) but the transliteration method. BTW, if you're a casual editor, you're can't change much here, sorry, not the conventions or style, you can add translations or add entries but the guidelines is for registered users who are staying. Why not register first? --Anatoli 18:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)