Talk:titty

Two senses, allegedly in the OED (not.) --Connel MacKenzie 19:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

They are indeed both in the online version of the OED! SemperBlotto 21:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * In Wiktionary:


 * 1) a kitten
 * 2) (Scottish colloquial) a sister or girl

Both nonsense. Looking at the OED results below, I don't see either. (9, 10 and 11 are just bizarre search results, but unrelated, anyhow.)

Displaying 12 of 12 results Search level: All search terms in entry headings [info] Subjects searched: All 1. titty n. ( pl. titties ) another term for tit 2. (From The Concise Oxford English Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 2. titty n. = tit 3. (From The Oxford American Dictionary of Current English in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 3. titty n. = tit 3 (esp. as a child's term). (From The New Zealand Oxford Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 4. titty n. another term for tit 2. (From The New Oxford American Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 5. titty noun ( pl. titties ) another term for tit 2. (From The Oxford Dictionary of English (2nd edition revised) in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 6. titty n. = tit 3 (especially as a child's term). (From The Australian Oxford Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 7. titty noun = tit 2. (From The Canadian Oxford Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 8. titty see TIT 1. (From The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology in English Language Reference) 9. tough adjective (of a substance or object) strong enough to withstand adverse conditions or rough handling: tough rucksacks for climbers. • (of food, especially meat) difficult to cut or chew. (From The Oxford Dictionary of English (2nd edition revised) in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 10. tough luck interjection informal → noun bad luck, misfortune. (From The Canadian Oxford Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses) 11. foxhole n. a hole in the ground used by troops as a shelter against enemy fire or as a firing point. Also called fighting hole, hasty pit, slit trench (especially in World War II), titty-deep, and Individual Fighting Position. (From The Oxford Essential Dictionary of the U.S. Military in Military History) 12. tit1 (dial. and vulgar) TEAT. OE. tit, corr. to (M)LG. titte, Du. tit, (M)HG. zitze. (From The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology in English Language Reference)

So, where in the OED are these? The bogus entries need to be removed, not the correct RFV tags! --Connel MacKenzie 20:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

From Oxford English Dictionary - -

Sc. colloq. A sister; a young woman or girl. Cf. KITTY1. tittie and billie, sister and brother (cf. BILLY1 3); hence to be tittie-billie, to be closely associated as brother and sister, or as brothers or sisters.

1725 RAMSAY Gentle Sheph. III. ii, That clattern Madge, my titty. 1790 BURNS Tam Glen i, My heart is a-breaking, dear Tittie! Some counsel unto me come len'. 1818 SCOTT Hrt. Midl. v, ‘Has she not a sister?’ ‘In troth has shepuir Jeanie Deans..; she was here greeting a wee while syne about her tittie’. 1825 JAMIESON s.v., Tam's a great thief, but Will's tittie-billie wi' him. 1896 J. LUMSDEN Poems 18 A band of billies And frisky titties.

A kitten, a cat; pussy.

1821 CLARE Vill. Minstr., etc. (1823) I. 165 Now she wails o'er Titty's bones With anguish deep. 1828 Craven Gloss., Titty-pussy, a cat. c1880 Northampt. Dial., Oh, mother, mother! titty is drinking the milk.


 * Um, could you supply the "cite this entry" link please? My library subscription shows no such thing.  --Connel MacKenzie 04:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Um, I can't see a "cite this entry" link. Are we talking about the same Oxford English Dictionary? The one I'm looking at says Second Edition 1989. There is a "Mail" button that I can use to email you a link - I'll try that. 08:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No, you're not talking of the same dictionaries. Connel is talking about the Oxford Reference Online site  which uses, I think, the Concise OED and various other Oxford works, while SemperBlotto is talking about the Oxford English Dictionary Online site  which contains the full OED 2nd edition as modified by additions researched since.  Note that the full OED page claims only to work if accessed via a subscribing library's website. --Eng in ear 17:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Your last sentence doesn't quite match what you said in the previous sentences. I certainly was/do access through a library site.  The en.wikt: entry for titty is still broken, identifying the (as OED2? asserts, without attestation,) Scottish definitions as English.  These should not be in the ==English== section, right?  --Connel MacKenzie 18:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I intended my last sentence to warn that the site might not let in people reading this, if they tried to access it direct from the link I provided.


 * The first language of nearly all Scots is English rather than Scots. The OED, unlike us, lists only English (and possibly Middle English) entries, so the def is in the right place.  I'll add citing it to my to-do list, but I suspect it will be a pain, so it may stay there a while. --Eng in ear 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * rfvpassed. Andrew massyn 03:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)