Talk:tram route

RFD discussion: September 2018–January 2019
Looks like tram route to me. Also, bus route might wanna follow suit --XY3999 (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I would keep it as a transport-related subject. DonnanZ (talk) 19:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why it being a transport-related subject makes it any more dictionary-worthy. Delete. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 02:51, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Would you also keep "The history of trams in the UK during the 20th century"? That's also a transport-related subject (see if you can find that in the OED...). Chuck Entz (talk) 03:22, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would if I had it, I have a few tramway books like "Hammersmith and Hounslow Tramways" (try finding that), and a tram route a few miles away at Wimbledon. I rewrote the definition, I hope it reads better. DonnanZ (talk) 09:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete NISoP: A route for trams. DCDuring (talk) 15:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete: hard to see what else this would mean. If it were a full sentence then perhaps it would be good for a travellers' phrasebook. Equinox ◑ 20:42, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


 * So this user (with a name like a car number plate) thinks he's doing everyone a favour by nominating this for deletion? Poppycock. DonnanZ (talk) 11:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * This feels similar to a COALMINE situation: where we accept one term (e.g. tramway, US English) we should accept alternate forms of that term (tram route, British English). The alternative (without losing information) would be a usage note on tramway, I guess? -Stelio (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing more than "tram" + "route". Mihia (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. The requisite sense of route collocates only with few nouns, it seems, especially bus route and tram route, and I think our readers are better off with our having both. We have bus stop and so has M-W, but this could be free-variabled (Talk:free variable) deleted by having the right definition at stop and claiming bus stop and tram stop to be sum of parts. Wikidata: ; perhaps someone will be able to find the kind of translations there that could support WT:THUB. I wonder whether our users will have to use a combination of Wiktionary and Wikidata for translation purposes; Wikidata keeps all sorts of sum of parts entries with translations into multiple languages. Correction: Neither tram route nor bus stop seem to really be Talk:free variable cases; I take that back. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:39, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that in fact many words can designate a type of route, and hence collocate with "route". In a few minutes I came up with: cycle route, pedestrian route, HGV route, lorry route, shipping route, taxi route, coach route, ferry route, passenger route, freight route, air route, sea route, canal route, ski route, caravan route, ice-cream van route, trolley-bus route, hovercraft route. I don't see what's special about "tram route". Mihia (talk) 16:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Most of these are not of the requisite sense of route: "A regular itinerary of stops, or the path followed between these stops, such as for delivery or passenger transportation". One intuitive reason why I may desire to keep bus route and tram route is that they reinforce the separate sense of route, which does not apply to "cycle route" and "ski route"; it is the sense that has line as a synonym, and for which I would usually expect there to be a timetable, and which could alternatively be defined not as an "itinerary" but rather as an "operation", the way Wikidata defines "line" as a "regular operation of a particular path for a type of transportation". --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * So? That's just a semantic limitation of the sense- there aren't that many things that have that kind of route. If there were a sleigh pulled by unicorns that made regular stops to pick up passengers, there would be no problem referring to a "unicorn-sleigh route". Should we have an entry for see a bet because it doesn't use a more common sense as in "see a rainbow" or "see a patient", and you can't use it for something like a donation? Chuck Entz (talk) 15:07, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fay Freak (talk) 22:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP. Per utramque cavernam 15:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 17:22, 29 January 2019 (UTC)