Talk:true

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See below, "Compound Words and Terms"

Erm, where? 81.68.255.36 18:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Presumably it meant what's labeled as "Derived terms", but I removed the reference, which didn't really belong there. Thanks for the heads-up. In the future, you can make such changes yourself. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * That was an old section from about five years ago: Compound words and terms. It was deleted somewhere along the way. —Stephen (Talk) 18:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

true
(Noun) "The fitment of a part in a machine such that their axes coincide". Not really sure what this is saying, but it looks fishy to me. Polarpanda 19:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it's ungrammatical. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it's meant to be an adjective. Chambers has "accurately adjusted or in tune" and "straight or flat." Pingku 19:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * What's ungrammatical about it? —Ruakh TALK 20:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * We don't have a definition of fitment for the implied sense of "an act of fitting." Even if we did, I'd struggle connecting it with a noun sense of "true". Pingku 20:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ... and certainly not "plural only". Can anyone find usage of "a true" or "trues" in this sense?  I would guess that there will be occasional such use, in which case we need to move the "plural only" and change "fitment" to "fitting".    D b f  i  r  s   20:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * On reflection, it's grammatical but poorly worded. Looks like the work of a non-native English speaker. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hasn't anyone ever heard of something being "out of true" or "in true"? I am not sure that the word is currently in general use in the sense intended outside of those terms.
 * The word fitment does not appear in COCA, and does appear in BNC. As a UK term it ought not be in the definition.
 * Would "alignment" be an adequate synonym? DCDuring TALK 23:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm guess a dated or rare British word, I've absolutely never heard of it. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Are your referring to "true" in this sense or to "fitment"? DCDuring TALK 15:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Citations added for the "alignment" sense. All of them actually "out of true." Pingku 12:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't found any valid citations for "into true" or "in true".


 * I have inserted an RfV-sense tag for the sense of "true": those who are loyal or faithful. This seems like an elliptical construction that is possible for almost any sense of any adjective. I believe that no use can be found where there is not a specific omitted referent. consider the following:
 * "There was an imbalance between true and false answers. The true constituted 54% of the total.

-- DCDuring TALK 15:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * DCDuring, I've never heard of fitment in any context. Any UK people actually heard this or seen it in use? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There are 21 hits for the word at BYU's BNC. I didn't check for the sense. It is in some dictionaries. It seems real, but a very poor choice of word to use in a definition. DCDuring TALK 16:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't implying it wasn't real, just that it's likely to be rare, or dated. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I think "fitment" is more common in the UK than "true" in the questioned sense (especially in the sense of a part to be fitted), but I agree that it is not a suitable word to use in the definition.   D b f  i  r  s   21:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Tagged senses removed per above. (I'm not sure if "RFV failed" would be quite accurate, though.) —Ruakh TALK 19:20, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Missing adjective in anatomy?
Chambers 1908 defines it as "(anatomy) complete". No example is given. Equinox ◑ 22:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

flying straight and true as if by wing: winged words
What meaning is used in flying straight and true as if by wing: winged words ? --Backinstadiums (talk) 20:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

adverb
[https://www.wordreference.com/definition/true In a true manner; truly; truthfully 2. in conformity with the ancestral type: to breed true. 3, come true, to have the expected or hoped-for result; become a reality.] --Backinstadiums (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2021 (UTC)