Talk:vespertiĉo

RFV discussion: November 2015–January 2016
Esperanto for male bat. Nothing on Google Books, Google Groups, or Tekstaro. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 21:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Esperanto is still a constructed language, with new words being invented by people over time as they need them, even though it is by far the most standardised conlang actually used. I would think Esperanto words belong if they make sense within the Esperanto construction frame, and vespertiĉo certainly seems to make sense. Conlangs are so different from natural languages in how they come about, my opinion would be to either not allow any conlangs or words of them on wiktionary, or to allow all of them, however there looks to be a massive double standard because any language that isn't "attested" by "verifiable sources" by "experts" will be labelled as a conlang and stigmatised and anyone who even question the dismissal of the language as a conlang will be accused of being the conlanger, as happened with all the Hunnic words added by except мори even though they're obviously some Turkic language, after which I was accused of being his sockpuppet because I asked if it's a nonstandard dialect of Bashkir that my friend speaks and insists it's a different language, not a dialect... The double standard is clear eurocentrism, it's a huge problem in linguistics; if it isn't "verified" by white people, then it doesn't exist... AliHautala (talk) 11:27, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * On Wiktionary, words in constructed languages have to meet the same criteria for inclusion as words in English, as explained in Criteria for Inclusion. This is not a double standard.
 * We do have a double standard with respect to small and poorly documented languages like Bashkir, but it's the opposite of what you're suggesting—words in poorly documented languages have fewer requirements for inclusion than words in well documented languages like English, French, or Esperanto. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 15:28, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * RFV failed. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 21:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC)