Talk:violence

RFV discussion: August–December 2023
Rfv-sense: "ravishment, rape, violation". (The Webster-ese isn't as bad as it could be; Webster 1913 adds "constupration" to its gloss. Anyway, I digress.) OED doesn't have this sense. Webster 1913 and Century do, but without quotes. Can we find evidence of this word being used very definitely in this sense, as distinct from senses 1, 2 and (in figurative uses) 3? This, that and the other (talk) 13:13, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I tried searching for "multiple violences", "his violence of", "violence of a woman" (where the corresponding phrases with "violation" might be expected to have this meaning sometimes) but none of the hits are this sense. "crime of violence"+rape is just hits saying rape is a crime of violence, along with assault, etc. I also checked the Middle English Dictionary to see if this was just being carried over by those dictionaries from Middle English, but the closest definition in the MED is "?violation, transgression" with the single 1475 quote "Lorde, sythe we, thy sowlys, y[e]t nowt wer þer, Wy, of þe fyrst man, bye we þe vyolence?" - -sche (discuss) 15:53, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Failed. - -sche (discuss) 21:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)