Talk:vitam impendere vero

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There is even a Wikipedia article w:vitam impendere vero, which leads to Juvenal’s satires. Should the Template:wikipedia be added as well? The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 08:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, but we should use instead. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 02:45, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I dont have the time or access to change this but this is not from Juvenal. It's from Rousseau's Lettre a D'Alembert sur les spectacles (1758) and passim. Rousseau never mentions Juvenal in either his letters or future mentions (Confessions, Reveries) in relation to this motto. Juvenal's version, in Satire 4, is Vitam inpendere vero (hence the confusion) and means to 'To risk (not devote) one's life for the truth. Small but big difference! Perhaps someone more au fait could make the relevant change.

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 * See Talk:sic semper tyrannis.

Just a small note -- I did see it attributed to Juvenal in an old book of Essays by Schopenhauer, translated into English from some in the early 1900s.