Talk:wave the bloody shirt

Not well defined. Is a bloody shirt a reference? Is it a metaphorical shirt? Equinox ◑ 17:09, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Best guess it means a deceased member of the American military, but that's a total guess and the definition doesn't help. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:12, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * and w:Waving the bloody shirt. It would be harder to define this as a noun without the verb 'wave' in front of it. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have moved it there, with a redirect. Equinox ◑ 17:41, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It is a metaphor, because it was waved by Civil War Veterans-turned-politicians in order to get people to vote for them. Conversely it was used by Civil War veterans to demand fat pensions from said politicians. Pur ple back pack 89   19:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * here is a GoogleBooks search for "bloody shirt" without wave, waved or waving. The sources seem to indicate it may also be a reference to the violence against scalawags and carpetbaggers during Reconstruction. Pur ple back pack 89   19:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I wasn't arguing for the page move, I just said it would be 'harder' to define as a noun, not that we shouldn't even try. Renard Migrant (talk) 19:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)