Talk:yassify

RFV discussion: July–September 2023
Sense 2: make something more effeminate. Equinox ◑ 21:15, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I suspect the issue is that sense 1 was worded so oddly that the IP who added sense 2 didn't realize it was the same as sense 1. "Yassify" doesn't mean "make someone almost unrecognizable" (as the old sense 1 had it), because blurring a picture or adding censor bars is not yassification; it's specifically about adding an extreme amount of makeup, airbrushing of skin, etc, which happens to also typically be perceived as making the subject look more feminine, and which has the additional effect of making them unrecognizable. So I would suggest we revise def 1 (and I have now done so), and then drop def 2 as redundant to it. - -sche (discuss) 03:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * According to "| What Does ‘Yassification’ Mean? A Brief History Of The Queer Term" pub. 4 Jan 2022 by Maggie Zhou on Refinery21, "yassify" could also mean "make something better and/or queerer". Maybe the IP confused "queer" with "effeminate". CitationsFreak: Accessed 2023/01/01 (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * FTR, I don't think the citation about yassifying reporting crime, which you added under the "make effeminate" sense, is about making reporting crime effeminate, although it does suggest there may be another sense besides the first (makeup filter) sense. It may be the "make better" (or at least "make chic") sense Refinery mentions. I think "queerer" is, like "feminine", a side effect: the sense is "subject to makeup filters", and makeup is read as feminine/queer, but I don't think a filter that made someone look like a buck-toothed redneck but with Pride flags would be considered yassifying even if it made them look queerer via the flags—the makeup/airbrushing is a definitional element. - -sche (discuss) 20:02, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I was going to change def. 2 to read something like "make gay", but I worried that I would violate some rule we have on that. CitationsFreak: Accessed 2023/01/01 (talk) 20:06, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think it would violate a rule if it's what citations use the term to mean... but I also don't think the "Yassify Dobbing" cite means "make dobbing gay", nor any of the citations under sense 1, except perhaps to the extent that something like the Yang cite is including "..., and thus cause to look feminine or perhaps gay" as a side effect of "subject to many makeup filters". By contrast, at least one of the cites at yassification does spell out that it means making something gay or gay-themed (replacing random words in an app with LGBT-themed words), so if we could find citations of yassify that were like that... - -sche (discuss) 21:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Sense 2 RFV-failed; relevant elements merged into the since-revised sense 1. - -sche (discuss) 21:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I just saw this, but I've definitely seen this usage outside of beauty filters many times. I can maybe take a look at Twitter and pull some cites, if we choose to allow them. CC: @Ioaxxere AG202 (talk) 00:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * unfortunately I don't think I can save "to make something more effeminate". But there definitely is a figurative sense which involves making something conform to some "beauty standard": for example, the CNN quote criticizing a publisher for trying to make Roald Dahl's books politically correct. This might be the sense you were thinking of. Ioaxxere (talk) 21:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It’s probably better now anyhow. Fay Freak (talk) 21:11, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, the new definition 2 captures the extended sense much better, and the cites fit/exemplify it better. - -sche (discuss) 22:29, 16 September 2023 (UTC)