Talk:zero gravity

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See Special:PermanentLink/24549090. DCDuring TALK 21:27, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) The state of apparent weightlessness which occurs when in free fall.
 * 2) A state/shuttle/simulator which produces weightlessness.

I'm not sure exactly what sense 2 means, but is it not just listing examples of sense 1? —Michael Z. 2011-12-14 00:12 z 
 * 1 is a state (situation); 2 is a machine. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 00:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Not getting it. Does shuttle mean “space shuttle?” I can't imagine how or when such a device is called “zero gravity.” Other dictionaries aren't helping me. Citation? —Michael Z. 2011-12-14 03:54 z 
 * You are getting it, then. (Well, if I am, then you are.) 2 is, yes, a space shuttle. Like you, I've never heard of this meaning of zero gravity; perhaps or ? &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 05:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm quite certain that a space shuttle doesn't produce weightlessness. Having stared at this for a day, I believe it is nonsense. A bit of rewriting and rfv-sense, I think. —Michael Z. 2011-12-14 15:10 z 


 * WT:RFV. —Michael Z. 2011-12-14 15:30 z 
 * It definitely produces weightlessness. Anyway, the sense 2 seems to be a nonsense. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Being in free fall, including being in orbit, leads to weightlessness, enshuttled or otherwise. A shuttle can be used to put you there, but to say that the machine “produces” the state implies some mechanism that doesn't exist. —Michael Z. 2011-12-15 01:11 z 
 * More precisely, being within any free-falling object produces a state equivalent to that of "weightlessness". However, "weightlessness" is a misnomer as the object does not actually lose all weight during its fall; objects simply are not resting against a static surface.  "Weightlessness" can occur in a falling elevator, at the crest of a roller coaster, or inside a plane specially designed to free-fall with astronaut trainees inside.  So, the second "definition" results from attributive use of the noun's primary definition and is not distinct. --EncycloPetey 03:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

RFV discussion: December 2011
Rfv-sense “A state/shuttle/simulator which produces weightlessness.” makes no sense to me. —Michael Z. 2011-12-14 15:25 z 
 * Nor to me, sounds countable so you should be able to say "that simulator is a good zero gravity". Sounds like tosh. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ergo delete. --Hekaheka 18:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Seems it was added by a dodgy anon - see here. None of the dictionaries or encyclopaedias I've consulted have this extra sense anyway. ---&#62; Tooironic 23:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What happened to 30 days? &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 17:31, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * @msh210, it's a speedy deletion and like any speedy deletion, can be reversed if controversial. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:35, 18 December 2011 (UTC)