Template talk:cmn-tsp

Example of usage
Can be used if fantizi and jiantizi are different, both forms are needed and pinyin in brackets.

produces: trad., simpl. (pinyin: Zhōngguó)

Anatoli 02:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion debate
Bad template; template should be used, as it links properly, with the proper code corrections, and will be updated by Tbot, etc.

Also it encourages the improper use of "Chinese" as a language name (the inclusion of pinyin shows clearly that what is intended is "Mandarin", not "Chinese" in general).

There are a number of entries that need to be cleaned up, with "Chinese" changed to Mandarin and the format corrected to standard. Robert Ullmann 13:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * keep. No mentioning of the unrelated issue of Mandarin vs Chinese in the template. Provides user with traditional, simplified and pinyin. Anatoli 13:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * keep but move to, like (traditional, simplified, jyutping) since I'm fairly sure that only Mandarin uses Hanyu Pinyin... — [ R·I·C ] opiaterein — 13:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Kept. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Spaces missing
There appear to be missing spaces in this template, visible at thực đơn--a space missing after the comma that separates traditional from simplified, and another missing before the open parenthesis. 71.66.97.228 06:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks better to me now. --Anatoli 06:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes! You are very quick. 71.66.97.228 06:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Kept for no consensus in December 2009. I'd love to know what this does that doesn't have. If doesn't have it, delete this and add what is necessary to,  and. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Firstly, it's not for translations, secondly, it is used show both Fantizi and Jiantizi together, e.g. (looks trad., simpl.  (pinyin: Huáqiáo)) you can check by what links here. I find it useful for etymology sections where the source is Chinese.  --Anatoli 04:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I requested adding trad. and simpl. to  but it must be hard. So translations use   twice. Template:zh-tsp doesn't link to FL wiki though. So both have their separate usages. I would use Template:zh-tsp in any place at Wiktionary where you need to link to all three important parts - traditional characters, simplified characters and (toned) Pinyin. --Anatoli 04:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I agree that it shouldn't be in translation tables. How to put languages that have multiple scripts in translations tables is quite a tough one. A template like would be alright, I know how to do that and Tbot could be taught to update it - all updating really means is changing the colour of the links link (fr). Mglovesfun (talk) 14:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Or should we just put on Template:zh-tsp/doc not to use it in translations, only elsewhere, such as synonym/related terms sections. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No consensus, striking. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

RFD discussion: January–July 2018
Unused.--Zcreator (talk) 20:36, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Not true; it's still used in old talk pages. We'll have to deal with that before deleting the template (and its redirect ). — justin(r)leung { (t...) 23:52, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * , any interest in dealing with it? If not, we can just leave it be. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 12:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I've removed all transclusions except the one in the documentation. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 02:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)


 * RFDO failed. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 22:54, 18 July 2018 (UTC)