Template talk:dercatboiler

=Discussion=

Marked as deprecated. It seems to merit a discussion. User:Prince Kassad states that it's redundant to. Mglovesfun (talk) 06:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Orphan and Delete. --Bequw → ¢ • τ 20:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably delete but it's a less clear cut situations than for the template above, and it's more used and more useful. But if it were removed from a page, I wouldn't want to put back. Ergo delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Any final opinions? I will close this in 24 hours otherwise. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Fails, lots of orphaning to do, I'm afraid. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

langname= is superfluous

 * This template has been deleted. This discussion has been kept for historical interest.

Language name can easily be obtained by postfixing ISO-639 code onto "Template:lang:" stem, and then taking the contents out of "Template:lang:xx". E.g., if we already have Template:lang:cu with the content of "Old Church Slavonic", it can safely be assumed as the default value for the langname parameter. I suppose it can easily be completely eliminated, docs concordantly updated, and then some bot can do the magic with zillion categories left using it? --Ivan Štambuk 23:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * When I initially created this template the language templates were a total mess. We now have some order to them. I'm happy for you to implement the above suggestion.--Williamsayers79 22:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If the change is made to use the language templates, you must ensure that non-wiki linked versions of the language templates exist (i.e. Template:lang:xx templates) otherwise some of the categories transcluding this template may become broken.--Williamsayers79 19:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Added, seems to work fine.. langname  can still be used though, {t-sect} will only be invoked if it's blanked. There are also some other templates where this could be handy (like --Ivan Štambuk 10:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I changed t-sect to, t-sect is an optimization for {t} which is typically used many times on a page, it is a lot more overhead for a single use than {language} ... the only use of t-sect should be in t itself. Robert Ullmann 10:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

What about the nav template?
Why cannot the template be used here? __meco 19:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I created this template so that etymology specific info could be added to the top of the Etymology categories. The was too general.--Williamsayers79 22:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I miss the function which the nav template provides for the mother (i.e. English language) category. See for instance Category:Greek derivations where the foreign language sub-categories don't show in the first screen. __meco 08:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It was never intended to be used in English entries, I created it to ensure consistency in the handling of derivation categories for foreign languages.--Williamsayers79 19:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It is very natural to compare its funtions to those of the nav template. Therefore, obtaining an overview of the subordinate categories is missed. __meco 13:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I may have a go at adding some top-level (English language) category functionality along the lines of .--Williamsayers79 20:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I have edited this category to display the link like does. I have also created  for the main derivation category which uses  and allows the use of a TOC template too. --Williamsayers79 22:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Deprecation
This template is in the process of being deprecated. It was originally intended that this template would serve as a temporary stop-gap until could be updated soi that it could handle the complexity of the Etymology categories. The template can handle the Etymology categories but requires template sub pages to be created. I am currently busy doing this and hope to formally deprecate and  once finished.

For the time being, both templates can be used and I will get around to sorting out all of the categories in due course. --Williamsayers79 18:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)