Template talk:la-decl-2nd-er

Why is this template (and others) ordered so badly in case terms? It looks as though these have been randomly placed and from my experience, N-V-A(cc)-G-D-A(bl) is the preferred order. NVAGDA also places similar dat. and abl. together and avoids confusion. Harris Morgan 11:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC).


 * My old Latin grammar (Cornell University) orders them N-G-D-Ac-V-Ab. —Stephen 16:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That makes no sense! The ablative and dative which are similar are than not placed together, neither are the similar nom. and voc. Latin wiktionary makes sense of this (as well as having uniform formulas that don't have colours and text splurged everywhere...) Harris Morgan 22:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC).
 * The Cambridge Latin Course supports this and I will search for other sources too. Harris Morgan 22:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Actually, it doesn't. I've checked my copy and, even in the newly updated edition, the cases are ordered N-G-D-Acc-Abl.  They do place Vocative with Nominative, but only for those inflections where the two are identical (so that they appear as a single line with a double identification).  This is the traditional order used by almost all textbooks for both Latin and Greek. --EncycloPetey 05:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Then I will accept this with a grimace. Harris Morgan 00:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC).