Template talk:mid2

RFD discussion: December 2022–January 2023
In 2017 these were changed to only be a  tag, I assume with the intent of making them do nothing since the topX templates now handle column-splitting themselves, but in practice what the midX templates now do is split the   tag where they're called, so with top3 you normally get:


 * a
 * b
 * c
 * d
 * e
 * f
 * g
 * h

vs. with mid3 after "c":


 * a
 * b
 * c
 * d
 * e
 * f
 * g
 * h

You can see an example in practice at of farthing. The upshot is that (other than on mobile) the list ends up looking like it's nonsensically ordered. I propose running a bot job to scrub these templates from entries—it looks like they're linked a few thousand times apiece, so it shouldn't be overwhelming—and then deleting them. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 20:42, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, not only redundant, but also actively disrupting the layout of entries. I'd almost suggest that this could be done right away; perhaps? This, that and the other (talk) 00:06, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete; I agree, and we should also remove der-mid*, des-mid, desc-mid, hyp-mid* and rel-mid* (along with trans-mid once the new versions have been pushed; any reason they haven't been pushed yet?). I also don't think we need to wait a month to do this; maybe a week at most. Benwing2 (talk) 02:38, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Benwing2 it needs someone with interface-admin rights to make the necessary changes to the translation adder gadget. I had been waiting on but their activity on this wiki is sporadic. Perhaps  could help implement the steps at the relevant section of Grease_pit/2022/August (which I can't link to directly due to the template syntax in the section header). This, that and the other (talk) 03:00, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * As an experiment I tried eliminating mid4. Since some pages seem to rely on the blank-line behavior of mid4 I did this carefully and only changed pages where it seemed fairly safe to do so (e.g. the line before or after begins with a,   or   or the mid4 occurs adjacent to top* or bottom). This biggest set of remaining pages are those using hu-verbpref, which makes use of mid4 in a complicated way. The few other pages still using mid4 are mostly junk, e.g. Easter Competition 2009 and User:KYPark/ㄱ. Can you take a look at hu-verbpref and see if we can just remove the mid4 usages? Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 05:26, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Bot is running to remove mid3 as well, and again there are some left-over cases. Benwing2 (talk) 09:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Benwing2 no worries, I will look. Thanks for making a start on this! This, that and the other (talk) 09:00, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have also done mid5 and am working on mid2. Benwing2 (talk) 09:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Bot is running to remove mid2; it will be done in a couple of hours (but again there are some leftovers ...). Benwing2 (talk) 09:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Benwing2 the use of the mid template in hu-verbpref is just cosmetic. I'll get rid of it. This, that and the other (talk) 09:56, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I've gotten rid of all the references to mid* (also mid), but please review and delete. Bot is running to remove der-mid* now. Benwing2 (talk) 20:21, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've deleted mid5 initially, and will continue with the others later. This, that and the other (talk) 23:40, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

All deleted now. A separate RFDO is open for trans-mid, see. This, that and the other (talk) 12:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)