Template talk:passive present participle of

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These templates seem to have been made exclusively for Danish; however, no such forms exist. I request that all entries transcluding one of these (past, present) and containing no legitimate content be deleted. I intend to subsequently nominate the templates themselves.__Gamren (talk) 10:32, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * So you're saying none of the forms listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:passive present participle of and Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:passive past participle of actually exist? That's pretty embarrassing if we've been listing nonexistent forms all this time. We'll also need to remove the relevant parameters from da-conj and da-conj-base. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 14:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * They do not exist as "passive participles", but they may exist as other forms, see this conversation with . Past participles can also be declined in the genitive case, but then the -t becomes -de- or -te- or something similar. Including these forms in a conjugation table seems like a bit of a stretch. has been modified, and  is unused. I don't see why we need more than one conjugation template, but perhaps  would like to explain this, and also why  has code for categorizing entries in Category:Swedish strong verbs and its subcats.__Gamren (talk) 08:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised at all. NativeCat's edits at the time showed an oversupply of youthful enthusiasm and energy combined with an undersupply of caution and awareness of her limitations. As much as I like her personally, that always made me nervous. I'm sure she converted the templates from Swedish ones without realizing the full extent of the differences between the languages. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:40, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * & : The forms listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:passive present participle of _theoretically_ exist, but not as "passive present participle forms", as they're called there. No such thing exists in Danish. Instead they're theoretically existing possessive/genitive forms of present participles (e.g. one could say "en gående" in the sense "someone walking, a pedestrian" and then coin a genitive "en gåendes", meaning "of someone walking, of a pedestrian"), but they are all exceedingly rare – I wonder if you'd ever come across them. For the forms listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:passive past participle of the claim to existence is even more tenuous, and the label is wrong here as well (in so far as they exist, and they don't all, they'd be possessive/genitive forms of the past participle). I'd advise that both templates are deleted and that lemmas defined only using these templates are deleted as well. —Pinnerup (talk) 23:08, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * BTW there are already and, which should be used instead for these concepts. Benwing2 (talk) 13:38, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I am NativeCat's new account. I just wanted to tell you all that I am very sorry about this. I agree, it is ridiculous and extremely embarrassing. 2 years ago, I don't know what I was thinking trying to make a template for forms I didn't know. I was told by another Danish person that those were all verb forms, but he wasn't interested in linguistics as the rest of you are, so it wasn't reliable. Plus he couldn't tell me what the forms were. And so I assumed that they were passive just like -es. But I was wrong. What I suggest, as I am the author of those pages, is we just go ahead and delete the 30+ pages created by me using those templates, perhaps using a bot to speed up the process. The way I see it now, I think we should add the "genitive" or whatever forms later and split that into a different discussion. I totally support adding those "genitives" or "possessives" to a conjugation template, so people in the future know what they are, since Danish is a very complex language. The good part is that when I looked through the list of verb forms in the WhatLinksHere, that the templates were used a lot but not THAT much, I mean 30+ isn't really a lot compared to you know some of the French verb templates and such. And most of those if not all were created by me anyway. Anyways, please forgive me for doing that 2 years ago. I really should've asked someone knowledgable to help me make a template like this, such as someone from the Danish Wiktionary. I also should've asked what these "s" forms were. I should've done that to begin with, really I don't remember why I didn't and it baffles me. Philmonte101 (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I am going to keep away from creating any verb entries until this is resolved. Philmonte101 (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, that's it. I've waited enough. In order to partially compensate for what I've done, I'm going to go one by one through all those entries of "passive past participle" and speedy each and every one. It's gonna have to happen anyway, so might as well go ahead and get this mass deletion over with. Philmonte101 (talk) 12:41, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Given the opinions you've expressed in this discussion, could you either mark with or change every transcluded instance of  to  in the mainspace entries listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:passive present participle of, please? That way,  will be orphaned and then I can delete it. Thank you. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 16:56, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * This is really bad! I'm sorry for not seeing this until now, but now that all the entries were replaced with Template:inflection of, I can't look through "What links here" and put speedies on all of them... This isn't good. Because the passive present participle is not an actual form in Danish; all these forms are hypothetical and rare genitive forms of the nominal forms of verb forms. (confusing, right?) Philmonte101 (talk) 00:01, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


 * See Special:Contributions/I'm so meta even this acronym, specifically contributions dated 12 August 2016; it looks like most or all of the offending entries have been deleted, anyway. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 18:21, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Are these searches not enough? I also notice the latter one brings up no relevant results. --WikiTiki89 14:37, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I had a brain fart there. And it doesn't show the passive past because I already speedy-tagged those and they were deleted. Now for the last mass deletion, and this whole thing will be a thing of the past. Philmonte101 (talk) 20:21, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * However, the next thing we have to discuss is how we're going to actually represent these hypothetical forms in the future. I will start discussion at Wiktionary talk:About Danish later, and maybe at WT:BP as well if necessary. Philmonte101 (talk) 20:21, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Good news, @User:Gamren, User:Pinnerup, and everyone else, all of the faulty entries have now been deleted! Thank you for rising up this issue, and I think I learned a valuable lesson from this embarrassment. Our next step is to figure out where we should place these actual forms in inflection templates. I'll arise the discussion soon. PseudoSkull (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Deleted by User:I'm so meta even this acronym. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)