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Addressing "compound-only" terms or meanings
TODO: create a "reverse" template of km-redup showing terms entering compounds without their meaning. Draft of it as Template:km-component.

Basically, it would address the following cases :
 * the echo syllables of reduplications who happen to be a real word (eg. ខំ)
 * (or even the echo syllables of reduplications who otherwise do not exist)
 * words in compounds who do not carry in their meaning (eg. ក្ដៅ)
 * words in compound who don't have a meaning outside that compound, or can be traced back to a meaning but no longer used alone (eg. synonymous compound ឈឺ sick+sick=sick, hypernym compound ​ water+pus=pus).

These terms can be shown in the component's definition as:
 * 1)  affectionate
 * 2)  to try hard
 * 3)  pus

Or, if want to show that the meaning is attached to the compound as a whole, not the individual component:



Case of words used figuratively/derivatively in a compound (eg. ​, or like "potato eye" in English), usually the first term of a compound.

Two sub-cases:
 * the word can be used outside of the compound and retain the figurative/derivative meaning (ex: storm eye - the eye approaches).

--> We can write the new sense as an additional sense like this: The issue with that presentation is we don't have a link to the full term if we ever want to make a separate entry.
 * (~) sty
 * (~) sty


 * the word cannot be used outside of the phrase (love handle - I hold you by the handle??).

--> We're dealing with a separate lemma: mention the compound in the "Derived terms" section of the term, and link to their own page as a lemma.

Case of hypernym/hyponym compound (the word is the second term of the compound). Can be written like this:
 * (~) hot pepper
 * (~) hot pepper

--- Question:

Why did Headley present these compounds as a "IN" sub-senses of the term, rather than a separate compound entry?

To exemplify this inconsistency, compare H77 and H97 in the treatment of :


 * H77: "IN" meaning under the first term

 /kmaŋ/
 * 1) very rude, profane. IN: ខ្មាំងមិល


 * H97: own lemma

 /kmaŋ mil/
 * 1) very rude; profane

Listing of compounds
Until completion of the new template, taking a note here of the occurrences of such compounds I came across for later cleanup.

No meaning, non-separable

 * in
 * in ​
 * in
 * in (khien does have a meaning, but from Thai, doesn't exist in the language otherwise)


 * in ​
 * ​ in . Maybe a reduplicative synonymous compound ?

Sole meaning, non-separable

 * - synonymous compound
 * ​  -​ hypernym compound
 * in កូនង៉ា, អាង៉ា,​ មេង៉ា
 * in កូនងែត, អាង៉ែក,​ មេង៉ែត

Derived meaning, non-separable, own lemma

 * -​ figurative
 * in . Note is an empty term.
 * easily > lightly, scornfully, condescendingly, in ,​,​, at least no longer productive.
 * ​ - is it separable?

Hypernym/hyponym
Happens a lot for types of animals, plants,..

To sort out

 * : allit?
 * : allit?
 * : allit?
 * : allit?
 * : allit?