User talk:2.7.88.56

Stop creating entries with only an etymology. Every entry needs a language, a part of speech, and a definition (or ). In addition, do not create entries that cannot be attested. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 23:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, I have not created a single entry that wasn't attested. I only linked pages that weren't. Many pages state that the word in question is etymologically linked to another word but when you get to the other word's page there is nothing to get back to the first word's page.
 * As for pages with only an etymology. I'm not used to the syntax on wiktionary and adding everything every time something is missing can be time consuming.
 * I think that adding only the etymology (which is once again not invented by myself but found on another wiki unlinked page) is a good start and better than having nothing at all. People will then be able to complete the page if needs be. 2.7.88.56 13:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Don't copy etymologies from other pages without checking and when you don't know enough about the language to properly contribute entries. Entries with only an etymology are simply not acceptable. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 13:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If some words are etymologically related then shouldn't it be mentioned on the pages of both words?
 * As for checking, I have done it everytime. I have mostly added entries to icelandic words (and a few others) and I use : https://islenskordabok.arnastofnun.is/
 * If the meaning is related as indicated in the dictionary to the one stated on the other wiktionary page then there is an extremely high probability that the first wiktionary page wasn't lying about the etymology and adding it to both pages becomes then necessary for the sake of completion.
 * Aren't entries with 'one-way' etymologies more inacceptable than incomplete entries with just an etymology?
 * Could you tell me what words did you find I modified which weren't appropriate, please? I could tell you more about why I did so with these specific words. 2.7.88.56 14:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Entries that are missing, to be created by people who are proficient in that language, are better than entries that don't have enough information to even act as dictionary entries. "Could you tell me what words did you find I modified which weren't appropriate, please?" includes every single new Icelandic entry you've tried to create the past few days. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 14:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not fluent in Icelandic but I can get by. The reason I only added an etymology on pages that had not been created is because 'I'm not used to the syntax on wiktionary and adding everything every time something is missing can be time consuming.'. Not because I'm not proficient enough in the language.
 * You seem to assume I randomly added information without knowing anything about the language.
 * I also added etymologies to many pages which had "a language, a part of speech, and a definition".
 * What about these ones?
 * Have you removed every entry I made? 2.7.88.56 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I assume that 'you randomly add information without knowing anything about the language' because that is exactly how you come across. It doesn't help that you admit that you're copying etymologies from existing pages without checking whether they are correct at all. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 14:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For example right now I can see that the proto germanic word https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/firrijan%C4%85 is etymologically linked to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/firra#Icelandic
 * The meanings for firra correspond to the ones in proto germanic both on the wiktionary page and in the icelandic dictionary. The words in icelandic has the expected form according to how phonemes have evolved from proto germanic to Icelandic. (Which is exactly how words are etymologically linked and checked. Through semantic and phonetic analysis.).
 * It has "a language, a part of speech, and a definition" but is missing an etymology.
 * Why would adding it be wrong?
 * "It doesn't help that you admit that you're copying etymologies from existing pages without checking whether they are correct at all."
 * I never admitted it. I have based the etymologies of most word on the recommendations of wiktionary AND a semantic and phonetic analysis thanks to my knowledge in linguistics to see if the recommendations seemed reasonable which is exactly what sort of analysis an etymological dictionary offers.
 * Of course checking an etymological dictionary is always better as well as citing sources. But this is something that would have to be done in the case where no etymology is found at all on wiktionary as a whole. 2.7.88.56 14:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Could I get some guidelines on how to add entries like the one for https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/firra#Icelandic without having the entry deleted? 2.7.88.56 15:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You can use existing entries as an example, or see WT:EL for a full description. As I stated earlier, the language header, part of speech (including a headword template), and a definition (or ) are required. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 15:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. 2.7.88.56 16:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. 2.7.88.56 16:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)