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ايکي
Is the wrong spelling for this entry? I was under the impression that Azeri uses the dotless final ya. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That's right, South Azerbaijani follows Persian spelling conventions, and Persian doesn't use the dotted final ya, plus google doesn't return any results in Azerbaijani under ايکي. Historierummet (talk) 19:56, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I'd better find out if there are any more offenders. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 20:26, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Azerbaijani vs Azeri
Hi. I always wanted to ask the community to rename the language name for Turkic Azeri to Azerbaijani to distinguish it better from the Iranian language. Do you have any thoughts on this? --Vahag (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Couldn't agree any more. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:36, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Then I'll try to find time and bring this to the attention of WT:BP. --Vahag (talk) 19:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Could probably just post at WT:RFM. It's not an issue that will require a vote or garner a lot of interest. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:09, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ethnologue lists it as Azerbaijani, Glottolog as Azerbaijani, the endonym is Azerbaijani (Azərbaycan dili). True, there are other endonyms (türki  'Turkic' in South Azerbaijani and so on), but none of them is Azeri. So this Azeri-thing is really out of place.Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 10:14, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * All right, I requested the change at WT:RFM. --Vahag (talk) 14:01, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Matal words
Jallo, I wonder, what do the words ala and aŋa mean? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 15:42, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello. aŋa corresponds to English and is used in all sorts of possessive constructions. Not sure about, could be a conflation of the local preposition  and some sort of particle. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 15:49, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

palax
Hi. Are the etymologies of dialectal 🇨🇬, transparent to you as a speaker of Azerbaijani? --Vahag (talk) 10:18, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello. No, it's not transparent to me. I've never heard neither word, but I'm no L1-speaker anyway, so it's probably not very helpful. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 11:15, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. As long as they are not obvious inner-Azerbaijani formations, my theory of connection with 🇨🇬 has a right to exist. --Vahag (talk) 17:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure. Maybe add "possibly" to clarify that it's not established.Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I used "compare" in . Can't get any more cautious. --Vahag (talk) 11:36, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * In the etymology section for palax it merely says "From Armenian բալախ (balax), dialectal փալախ (pʿalax)." If no Armenian connection is given in either of the two sources that are listed in the references, I think a "possibly" should be placed there as well. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 13:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I was talking about Etymology 2, with the meaning "short". --Vahag (talk) 14:12, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Azerbaijani templates
Hello, I completely forgot I was watching the talk page of the user who nominated those Cyrillic conjugation templates for deletion; he never replied and the templates were deleted. Do you think they should be restored? I don't speak the language, but they seemed fine to me. Ultimateria (talk) 20:16, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello! No, they shouldn't be restored, they are outdated. What I think s/he did was replacing them with a more elegant, single template which encompasses all conjugations. It looks like a nice job when it comes around, it was just a bit unclear back then. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. So now needs to be created? Could you adapt that from the Roman script template? Ultimateria (talk) 20:55, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm no good with templates and trying to tinker with them... That's why I've been waiting for Metaknowledge to fix a template that I want for Azerbaijani verbs since last year, basically. I could perhaps take a look on it later, but it's really no rush - no one is creating entries for items in Azerbaijani Cyrillic alphabet, since it's barely in use any more, and all existing entries are doublets of the Latin ones.Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 21:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

söyüş usage example
please make a better usage example. 2602:252:D2B:3AA0:85A2:1A9E:D7F7:47BC 20:53, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What exactly is your major malfunction, son? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It annoys me. 2602:252:D2B:3AA0:85A2:1A9E:D7F7:47BC 20:59, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, "it annoys you"? And why does exactly this example sentence, in a language that you obviously don't know a word of, annoy you? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 21:14, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding another usage example! By the way, can I remove the first one? 2602:252:D2B:3AA0:85A2:1A9E:D7F7:47BC 21:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No, you cannot. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 21:19, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please? 2602:252:D2B:3AA0:85A2:1A9E:D7F7:47BC 21:19, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey, IP user, please stop annoying editors. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Your Javascript
Hi, thank you! Of course I can write one for English Wiktionary. But who should I contact to in order for this to be implied into Common.js page? Because it needs to be loaded on everyone. ~ Z  ( m ) 19:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you not make it like one of those user extensions, that are available optionally? Like this one https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Dixtosa/AjaxEdit.js Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi! Came bearing good news. :) I have finished the "EntryAdder" for this wiki, and it is much more improved than I wrote in Turkish Wiktionary. I am gonna transfer the same codes to there as well, because this one is better. Anyways, I suggested to use it here. But you can always test and use it by adding this to your "common.js" file:
 * mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:HastaLaVi2/EntryAdder.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
 * Have a nice day! ~ Z  ( m ) 22:48, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Looks very promising. I will create new entries using it and leave feedback and suggestions on improvements to you, if that's OK. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 23:00, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Of course! I would be very much appreciated by a users feedback on the gadget. :) Also if you are usually active on another wiki, I could also implement this into there as well (if wanted). ~ Z  ( m ) 19:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

qələmə
Hi. Can you translate for me this definition of from : "qovaq ağacının bir növü, bəzi rayonlarda əbrişim, səhv olaraq çinar da deyilir"? As I understand, there are three tree names here. --Vahag (talk) 14:51, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "A kind of poplar tree, also called əbrişim in certain districts, as well as erroneously çinar (=chenar, plane tree, sycamore)"
 * Also, on the Pedia page the following is said: "The trees are grown from kalam or cuttings [...]" No idea whether this has anything to do with anything, though.
 * Can you create յարամազ when you've got time? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:32, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess this “cuttings” word has to do with . Fay Freak (talk) 19:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This “cuttings” lead is intriguing, but its Arabic etymon cannot explain, because Armenian had no Arabic borrowings in the 5th century. Also, it contradicts my invention, so let someone else explore it :). is ready. --Vahag (talk) 20:32, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * This seems to be referring specifically to 🇨🇬 (which is indeed from the Arabic) which has been influenced by a native word . I think the "cuttings" sense is a later Hindi (or Indo-Aryan) innovation. The term does not specifically refer to poplars either. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 20:44, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comapre . It is from (because both are long and thin). Not connected with poplars. --Calak (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am glad this was a dead end. --Vahag (talk) 12:23, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Proto entries with no descendants
Hi Allahverdi (nice user pager, BTW -- looks somehow familiar), could I ask that you not create proto entries without descendants, like your did with this page? Even if they are sourced, they should have descendants attached to them, if they indeed have any. Thanks. -- 19:47, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure they have descendants, in most of the 135 or so Chadic languages. There are long cognate lists in Jungraithmayr & Ibrizhimow. As to why I created the Proto-Chadic entries, they are useful for many contemporary languages' etymology sections. For instance, many Matal entries are linked to them. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * In the example above, nothing is linking to it. If there are contemporary descendants, please include them in such entries. -- 00:41, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Etymology templates
Why are you doing ? Please use. Per utramque cavernam 12:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It's fine to link the non-standard script lemmas to their etymons, but only the standard script lemmas should use . Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 12:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I hadn't noticed. I think the current situation is quite confusing; looks, for all intents and purposes, like a lemma form, complete with glosses, declension table, etymology section... Wouldn't it be better to remove the etymology and convert the glosses to something like "Cyrillic script form of "?  Per utramque cavernam 12:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This solution is exactly what I've always wanted (maybe declension table is useful and should be kept, but the rest is just the same as in the Latin sctipt-lemma). But I don't know how to do it, technically. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 12:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that the Cyrillic spellings should be a soft redirect to the Latin spelling. There is no constituency currently using the Cyrillic alphabet for Aerbaijani, like there is for Serbo-Croatian. --Vahag (talk) 09:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The process of replacing the content in Cyrillic entries with a redirect template has now begun. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 09:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

ayıq
Thanks for expanding it. I could really use some more Azerbaijani FWOTDs, if you have any more interesting words to offer up. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 05:47, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * And there you go: mənimsəmək. Don't hesitate to correct the wording of the quotes' translations, if too unidiomatic. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, this is a really good one: öndər. Ketiga123 (talk) 01:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * : What makes it so good? The etymology is of some interest, but all that goes in to the FWOTD is saying that it's a fancy word for leader. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:19, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * okay then Ketiga123 (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

amaç
Hi, According to "Divan-i Luqat-i it-Türk", "amaç" is a Turkic world, not Persian. Please take care of Turkic words. source: http://www.achiq.org/pitikler/dlt---.pdf (page 8)
 * There you go. Ketiga123 (talk) 04:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Should nouns in this language have an inflection table? If so, then it's probably better not to use and instead keep all the inflection information in the inflection table. That way, only one template has to be maintained instead of two. —Rua (mew) 13:01, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, but maybe just some crucial information can be included into the head template for the time being? Noun class in the first parameter, ergative singular in the second, ergative plural in the third? I've no idea how to use Lua, so the template is just an attempt. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 13:04, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That's ok, you don't need to know Lua to make inflection tables. Lua just allows you to make them smarter. I can help with an inflection table if you like. Which forms are there? And does noun class refer to the inflectional class? —Rua (mew) 13:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budukh_language, "six 'gender-number' classes", Talibov 2007 "four grammatical classes".
 * Authier 2010:


 * human masculine,
 * human adult feminine,
 * animate (which includes animals, plants, and non-adult human females, as well as some abstract nouns),
 * inanimate,
 * nonhuman plural,
 * human plural.
 * Talibov 2007:


 * I class - masculine
 * II class feminine,
 * III class animate non-human, things,
 * IV class things, phenomena


 * Then there are 13 cases on top of that. The nominative is morphologically unmarked, the rest are formed with the ergative as the base. As I understand it, the noun classes do not really affect the case morphology; it is, however, affected by the insertion of different grammatical morphemes between the stem and the case suffix. Depending on the preceding grammatical morpheme the case suffix can take different shapes. The whole thing is quite complicated and it would take long time to create a full fledged inflection table. Therefore, I think, creating a head template with minimal grammatical information is necessary for the time being. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 13:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the noun classes are more like genders then. For the purpose of inflection tables, they can be ignored if you say they don't affect case morphology. But they do need some special treatment in . Can you give a list of all the cases? I can at least make a table to hold them, even if the logic for creating the forms is not known yet. —Rua (mew) 14:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure. As per Talibov 2007:


 * Nominative
 * Ergative
 * Genitive I
 * Genitive II
 * Dative
 * Instrumental-comitative
 * Locative I
 * Ablative I
 * Locative II
 * Ablative II
 * Locative III
 * Ablative III
 * Ablative IV

The Roman digits have nothing to do with the nominal class numbers given above. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll see what I can do. Does Talibov go into more details about the differences between the numbered cases? For example, what is the functional difference between genitives I and II? I could put them in the table labelled as just I and II, but if there is a way to describe them better I'd rather use that instead. —Rua (mew) 16:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh and also, should the nominative not be called absolutive? Usually the ergative case is paired with absolutive in languages that have such a case system. —Rua (mew) 16:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I've finished the table: . You give one argument for each form in the table. It's implemented using Module:bdk-nouns. Note that the table still shows two of the forms even when it's collapsed. This means it's not necessary to display these forms also in . Please give the template a try and let me know if there's anything you need adjusting. I did some researching myself on Budukh and related languages, and found that the "instrumental-comitative" is generally just labelled "instrumental", while the nominative is indeed rather the absolutive case. I hope you don't mind these changes. —Rua (mew) 16:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Rua! Great job! Talibov does go into detail about the cases. I will try to read the chapter about the noun declensions and get back with more details. It is also safe to re-label cases as absolutive and instrumental as well. I will now play around with the templates and learn how they work. Once again, thanks for the help! Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 19:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the two forms that should be shown when the table is collapsed are ergative singular and absolutive plural. Absolutive singular is always the same as the entry name. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 19:38, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll leave the absolutive singular there for now, because we always seem to show the entry name in other inflection tables, even in the collapsed state. Now that this is working, I can see about automating some of the generation of the forms, so that you don't have to fill in all of them by hand. But you'll have to tell me what the rules are for doing that, because I know nothing about the language. —Rua (mew) 20:08, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, Rua, here we go. May God have mercy upon our souls. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 05:01, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

طبانجه
How come Turkish corresponds to, but on the Azerbaijani side we have  against ? Have you looked at the thing like that? I bet 🇨🇬 is reborrowed from Persian. I don’t know where the /d/ onset in Kurdish and Georgian comes from though, maybe from an earlier native Azerbaijani pronunciation, or else Old Anatolian one (as usually stands for /d/, and that’s the original Oghuz Turkic and Turkic sound), but a firearms meaning is not even yet there in Meninski 1680 and pistols were rare back then so technically Kurdish and Georgian need to have borrowed in the following two centuries. Fay Freak (talk) 00:18, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * you're probably right about the re-borrowing. As to Georgian/Kurdish borrowings from Ottoman, there are several possibilities: again, I don't know when the /d/ was devoiced in Ottoman, do you? This ought to be a question that one could find an answer to somewhere. It could also have been borrowed thither from Turkish dialectal forms. Last but not least, could be native post-borrowing processes in these languages. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 00:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Bernt Brendemoen (2002) The Turkish dialects of Trabzon : their phonology and historical development. I-II, page 202:
 * In the 15th century, voicedness assimilations take place also in back vowel stems with initial dental stops, e.g. daş > taş. Today, the unvoiced forms are often found in West Anatolia (and also ST), while the voiced ones are typical of the east. 4) A parallel voicing of initial velar stops before back vowels commences in Azeri and Anatolian and Balkan Turkish [...] Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 02:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * On another note, can you make the quotation look less uggly here? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 00:51, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Question
Why do you removed sibieran tatar to the Appendix:Turkic Swadesh lists, not to be negative vibing at all but to bea positive vibal guy and being a gentleman to you, you know? (talk) 19:07, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't do anything with any other languages in that list except for Azerbaijani, so you must be mistaken. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 17:24, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about what happen 9/28/19 about Appendix:Turkic Swadesh lists, Please forgive me? (talk) 17:44, 30 September 2019
 * Still dunno what you are talking about, but I forgive you. Walk peacefully, son. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 07:10, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

sosial məsafələşmə
Tjena! Jag tror att etymologin här har råkat blandas ihop med uppslaget om flockimmunitet! --Lundgren8 (t · c) 10:58, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Tack, fixat Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 12:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Doubt
Regards. I come here to consult the origin of the name "Dua". There is a singer named Dua Lipa, what I am arguing is that the name of that artist is Arabic despite the fact that she says that she is of Albanian origin. What I believe is that Dua is of Arab origin but that name also has its meaning in several languages, one of those is Albanian. I ask you to answer the question here. Thank you. Alexismata7 (talk) 00:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Alexismata7 (talk) 16:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I am neither knowledgeable nor particularly interested in the etymologies of Albanian given names. However, although "dua" really means "prayer" in Arabic and in many languages that have been under the influence of Islam, I have never encountered the word being used as a given name, in any language. On the contrary, the word "love" is very often used as a female given name: cf. Slavic, , Azerbaijani , and, I am sure, many more. But hey, I've no idea, consult someone else. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

cərgə
Hi,

The Ukrainian or  and Belarusian  are apparently derived from a Turkic source. I could only find an Azerbaijani cognate, for which we don't have an entry.

My source for Azerbaijani Cyrillic "чǝркǝ" is https://goroh.pp.ua/Етимологія/черга (in Ukrainian). I couldn't find any other terms mentioned or any other descendents. Could you please confirm the etymology looks right and if I defined the sense correctly. Also calling. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Cərgə is written ҹәрҝә in the Cyrillic script. Compare also 🇨🇬 Check Dörfer, Türkische und Mongolische Elemente, I have a feeling he discusses this word. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 12:45, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I know they have spelling issues for some other languages. It seems /  are the right cognate for the Ukr. and Belar. words. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 13:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It is Slavic < Turkic < Mongolic. See here (page 26), here and . --Vahag (talk) 12:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yay, thanks, Vahagn! Any enhancements to the etymologies are welcome but I guess we want some sources blue-linked. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 13:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Common Turkic
What's the point of adding Common Turkic to Proto-Turkic reconstruction pages? All it does is mess up the page's formatting, and most people either don't care or already know that the Oghur languages developed differently from the rest. It's not even a unanimously acknowledged taxon, so why bother? —Alves9 (talk) 00:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What is not "a unanimosly acknowledged taxon"? Common Turkic? The fact that Bulgar split off from the rest quite early is as unanimously acknowledged as it can be. As to the ugly formatting, a solution might be underway, as we might soon split off Common Turkic from Proto-Turkic. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it's possible to infer that Chuvash has differents roots from Turkish without invoking the name "Common Turkic"; and especially without splitting the Proto-Turkic page in two, one part that has all Turkic languages, and another that has all Turkic languages, except the Oghuric ones. That just seems excessive, especially for a dictionary. But if you want to go ahead and do that, it might be better than the current alternative, which is not only excessive but also looks ugly (even though you may not find it so).—Alves9 (talk) 01:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Btw, the way I formatted the descendants table, it's not even that ugly. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not just a question of ugliness, it's a question of readability.—Alves9 (talk) 01:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The readability is fine. Skipping the Common Turkic node creates the false impression that Bulgar split off at the same time as, say, Kipchak. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

USEX
It is also really obvious from the second example given here. Sahib1609 (talk) 11:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It applies to English usage examples, obviously. This is supported by the well established practice of adding lemma-links in usexes in other languages: see a Russian example, a German, and a Chinese one. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What is it that you don't understand in "For non-English words in the Latin alphabet"? Picking a couple of examples doesn't make a convention. Sahib1609 (talk) 05:23, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It is not a couple of examples, it is a commonplace and standard practice for some languages, so I advice you to stop your edit-warring. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 08:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Middle Kipchak
Kipchak is divided three, Armeno-Kipchak, Mamluk-Kipchak , Cuman, It's rename all?

몽골어 물리 (talk) 01:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I answered over there; the short answer is no. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 14:57, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Anatolian transcriptions
I have been very in putting  of Ottoman Turkish and Old Anatolian Turkish with the modern spellings, and this was done before already by  when he started the Ottoman entries, whom I continued. It is advantageous as this aligns with the current Turkish and Azerbaijani alphabets. I mean ş, ç, ğ instead of š¸ č, ɣ. The mere categorization as “historical Turkic variaties” does not turn a switch in me to suddenly deem a different orthography appropriate nor can I agree with the notion that there could, would or should be a common notation for all the historical varieties; besides your choices contravene the and you would have a hard time changing the thousand Ottoman Turkish lemmas and links that do it otherwise – it is probably pointless, as it does not matter which we use (I have no preference truly – I like the kvačice!), but it is annoying/confusing if there are different uses from one page to the other. And the use of q and k will not have consistency between the four languages anyway; it probably depends on whether one has a Turkish or Azerbaijani perspective which one uses for Old Anatolian Turkish. I wrote About Ottoman Turkish so people make entries Unicode and transcriptions least offensively and consistently, to account for as much as possible. Fay Freak (talk) 11:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * >And the use of q and k will not have consistency between the four languages anyway; it probably depends on whether one has a Turkish or Azerbaijani perspective which one uses for Old Anatolian Turkish.
 * the use of q or k is not a matter of "whether one has a Turkish or Azerbaijani perspective", it is a matter of what letter the original has. There is exaclty 1 way to transliterate ق - namely, using the grapheme q.
 * When it comes to About Ottoman Turkish, it should be rewritten or deleted. Especially outrageous is the paragraph "It’s like Modern Turkish". And while you're at it, take out all references to Azerbaijani which I already told you you are the only person in the world to think is derived from Ottoman Turkish. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Bashkir in Appendix:Turkic Swadesh lists
Hi Allahverdi Verdizade, I've noticed you've been editing the subj. Can you please leave the Bashkir there as it is now? Previously, I had edited it to the best of my understanding of what a Swadesh list is, and I was disappointed to see that you later edited it so it matched an earlier state.

Please discuss the edits with me if you feel like. I understand some of the edits you made may make sense from the standpoint of across-the-Turkic comparison, but they don't from the position of Bashkir.

Cheers, Borovi4ok (talk) 15:35, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I guess you mean my edits from September 2019? Sure, I won't touch the Bashkir section. Btw, judging from the numerous errors I found and corrected in the Azerbaijani list, there must still be a lot of errors in other languages too, both when it comes to spelling and senses (and in some cases, whether the term in question exists in this language or that at all). Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:05, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Allahverdi Verdizade, : AryamanA has created a Module:Swadesh, which makes it much easier to create and maintain comparative tables such as this one. You simply have to enter the words in a page such as Module:Swadesh/data/hi, then you can invoke it through (see Appendix:Pahari Swadesh lists for an example of this). PUC – 16:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Allahverdi Verdizade, agree, there are all types of mistakes in other languages that I have some understanding of. Would be great to sort them out some day. Overall, would be great to have some type of a Turkic wiktionary meetup someday, somehow - there are lots of things to discuss and things to do together.Borovi4ok (talk) 16:38, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, let's have a Wiki-Kurultay in January. Let's create a page somewhere where everyone can post topics that will be discussed in advance. I have a few things in mind. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction
Thanks for your correction, appreciate it. --Altuunay (talk) 00:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

бир нече vs. бир-нече
Hi, These two seem to be the same entity. Perhaps would make sense to show one as a spelling version of the other. Borovi4ok (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well spotted! I fixed it. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 07:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/BurakD53
This editor has done 58 edits to Proto-Turkic pages in the past couple of days, including boneheaded errors in the names of a couple of pages they created. I don't know enough about Proto-Turkic to tell if the errors extend into the content of their edits, but it merits attention from someone who knows more than I do. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 05:43, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have now gone through his edits and fixed them. They are mostly copies from EDAL (Etymological Dictionary of Altaic languages/Starling) with varying degrees of mistakes. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Proto-Turkic
Eklediğim proto dillere yaptığınız debe için d>t, gErtme için g>k düzenlemesi yanlış. Dil bilimciler tarafından o şekilde kabul edilmiyor. Hangi dayanağa göre bu değişimi yaptınız? Kaynak olarak şu araştırmayı kullanabilirsiniz: file:///C:/Users/My%20Computer/Downloads/Sergei_Starostin_Anna_Dybo_and_Oleg_Mudr.pdf Proto Türkçeden sonra bazı ssözcüklerde d>t ve g>k değişimi olduğu dil bilimciler arasında yaygın bir görüş.


 * Vəəleyküm əssəlam. Altayçılardan savayı d- və g- başlayıcı səslərin ibtidai olmasını heç kim düşünməyir. Anna Vladimirovna da bizim dahi türkşünasımızdır, ona türkşünaslığa etdiyi danılmaz qatqılarına görə böyük hörmətimiz var, amma onun altayçılığıyla metodoloji cəhətdən heç cürə razılaşa bilmərik, və burada qəbul edilmiş nöqteyi-nəzərinə görə də altayçılıq rədd edilmişdir. Daha çox burada oxuya bilərsiniz. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 10:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

алма
Tekrar merhaba, iyi bayramlar! Wiktionary'de ingilizce алма sayfasında kökeninin kaynağının verilmeyen bir sürü from Proto-Turkic alma yazısı yazıyor. Bu eklenti neye göre? Ben internette net bir köken bulamadım. Buna rağmen Oğur grubuyla alma sözü Macaristan'a bile gitmiş, hatta kimi Ural dillerinde ve Çuvaşça'da ulma, ulpa şekillerinde. Ana Türkçe dilinde mevcut olduğu aşikar. Fakat Halaçça'da alumla/alômla imiş ve eski Common Turkic içinde almıla kaynağı var. Kökeni Latince mālum ile bağdaştırılıyor.(al mālum>almıla) Bilgili biri olarak sayfaya göz atabilirseniz minnettar olurum. Rahatsız ettim, kusura bakmayın. İyi günler.
 * Sizinlə birlikdə. Bir başlanğıc olaraq üçün məqalə yaratdım, halbuki hələ tam deyil. Sadaladığınız xalac, qaraxanid və latın kökdaşlar *alïmla məqaləsinə əlavə ediləcəklər. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 17:13, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

adding audios
You can add a trusted audio recorder (even if they use Lingua Libre) to User:Metaknowledge/audiowhitelist to save yourself some time. Their files will eventually be added to pages by User:DerbethBot. Ultimateria (talk) 23:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do so. I will finish adding the ones I've got now manually, since not all audio files uploaded there are good to go. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 23:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

IPA transcription
I’m asking you to provide an audio link (with or without a Praat analysis) proving your transcription of with final stress is true. Thanks. Don’t blame me :) It’s necessary for us. LibCae (talk) 10:41, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Accidental thank
Hi, just wanted to leave a quick note of clarification on your talk page saying that the thanks that I recently gave you for an edit was accidental, I unitentionally hit the "thank" button. That's all, take care. &mdash;The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 17:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it's a very important clarification. Good day. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * [the Thank you above was intentional, though] Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

what’s wrong with you
You should really put an end to the hard-line approach of yours. If you want to undo or delete something then just delete it by writing a reasonable summary. Not by getting salty Afb2011 (talk) 04:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry if I hurt your feelings. But what I wrote summarizes it perfectly well: we are not interested in Altaic parallels, and most definitely not in Altaic reconstructions. You can search around talk and discussion pages to see it for yourself. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 07:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Turkic IP Edits
Lately I've noticed a good number of edits every day to Turkic-language entries from IPs that geolocate to the same general area of France. By itself that doesn't mean much, since there are lots of people from Turkic-speaking countries in France. That said, there's a notorious IP editor geolocating not far from there who likes to edit in difficult languages and has no qualms at all about making stuff up to fill in the gaps. They have also been known to add translations in dead languages for things like television and America that were unknown when those languages were spoken. I have an abuse filter that blocks them from editing in Japanese and reconstruction entries, but branching out into a new language family would be just like them.

Today, the edits in question are from, but they never stay long on the same IP. Special:Contributions/2A01:CB09:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 gives a better picture, but that's broad enough to maybe pick up a few unrelated editors.

I was hoping you could take a look at least at their more recent contributions, just to be on the safe side- if only to tell me that I don't need to worry. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 00:16, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * They are mostly fine, some of them are incomplete as to missing important labels, one had incorrect definition an doen had to be moved because the IP didn't recognize that the form they used wasn't actually in the language they were creating the entry for. Maybe you can see the corrections to their edits that I made and judge for yourself whether the flaws are critical. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Was ێ really ever used in Azeri?
I noticed that you were the one giving the letter ێ the current Azeri [//en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%DB%8E&diff=prev&oldid=49207754 phonemes /ɯ, j/], but as I checked the Wikipedia article, I found no documentation of it and it further claims that the Arabic-based letters continue to be used as they were in Iran which lack them (until 1929 (still used in Iranian Azerbaijan)).

What I found was another letter: ؽ. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 06:26, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I did not add it, it was added before me. I see that both letters are used, but the one you found is used more often, especially in printed works, such as the magazine "Varliq". Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the source. Well, you were the one who indicated the pronunciation that's used for another letter, and BTW, not the gide /j/. I flipped through source pages and found in page 23 only the one I told you about, ؽ . So, we shouldn't leave the current Wiktionary entry as it is now, suggesting it's the primary form. It should be noted! I believe, if people have been using the other diacritic in handwriting, then maybe they have been confusing it with the Kurdish one, ێ . Thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Khalaj alphabet
Well, i think it's better: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Xenos_melophilos/Khalaj_alphabet

Sorry for the duplication of the undotted "i", but is because khalaj is unique, very, unique. Then, ¿why not a unique spelling of that sound?

The circumflex is due for Persian, its transliteration

And the alphabet in general, is based on the Common Turkic Alphabet. Xenos melophilos (talk) 17:45, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't like the representation of long vowels. Macron would have been better. But you can also skip length indication in the pagename and only indicate it in the head template. Like, you make a Khalaj entry on the page süt and then use.
 * The question is though, are you planning to do solid work on Khalaj? Are you intending to become our Khalaj-man? For example, BurakD53 has become our Salar-man and has a good grip of it. If yes, we can discuss, and I would then like to know which sources you are going to use. If no, I don't think whatever you come up with and implement in 10 or 20 entries is guaranteed to be conformed to by whoever decides to work on Khalaj in the future. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:05, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * YES
 * I will base my work on Doerfer's investigations: Grammatik des Chaladsch" and "Khalaj materials", principally Xenos melophilos (talk) 19:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * with work i mean solid contributions Xenos melophilos (talk) 19:26, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * although i'll use more Khalaj materials than Grammatik des chaladsch, i'll cite them both Xenos melophilos (talk) 19:30, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * can i begin? Xenos melophilos (talk) 19:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * you can begin of course, I don't own this site :D Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Kaynak - şablon
Merhabalar, bu konu hakkında bilgim olmadığı için size danışmak, sormak istedim. Clauson'un "The Suffixes in Pre-Eighth Century Turkish" konusu adı altında yaptığı araştırmalar başlı başına bir kitap mı, yoksa "An Etymological Dictionary of Pre-Thirteenth-Century Turkish. Oxford: Clarendon Press" ya da başka bir kitabının içinde geçen bir kesit mi? Ve bir Proto-Turkic reference şablonu yapılabilir mi? Şimdiden teşekkürler. Ardahan Karabağ (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Behold Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 14:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Teşekkür ederim. Ardahan Karabağ (talk) 18:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * is currently a mixture between the 1st edition of 1962 titled Turkish and Mongolian Studies and 2nd edition of 2002 titled Studies in Turkic and Mongolic linguistics. They have different page numbering. Which one do you want to keep? Vahag (talk) 18:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me. I guess let's keep the 2002 edition since that's probably the one people are most likely to make look-ups in... Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Mine is 1964 edition and I couldn't find the 2002 edition. Does it cause mistakes? Because all the page numbers I wrote in the template are from the 1964 edition. Ardahan Karabağ (talk) 18:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've sent you the 2002 edition, use it I guess... Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

squirrel, weasel, or both?
Do and  mean both squirrel and weasel? For mışovul a web site also suggests fox. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 12:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * means marten. Weasel is . As for, I don't find a reliable answer. I don't know what that is. The explanatory dictionary says it's a "slender, nimble, small predator from the Mustelidae family." Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 17:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I found the same definition via R:az:Obastan. No uses in Google books.  Online, I found an uninformative use in a page of advice to women:
 * Rəfiqələrimdən hansı mənim güclü rəqibim ola bilər? ... Məsləhət: Hər bir kişiyə sevgilisinin rəfiqələrinə baxmaq maraqlıdır. Bu halda ən təhlükəli rəqib «boz mışovul» ola bilər. Flirti xoşlayan rəfiqən əlbəttə ki, əsl təhlükədir. Bu tip rəfiqələri yaxşı olar ki, heç sevgilinlə tanış etməyəsən. Yoxsa onun sənə qarşı ciddi fikri dəyişər.
 * That use might be consistent with a predatory animal. The rest of the uses are the name of a film.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 19:42, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * In that quote, it is used in the sense 'mouse'. 'Boz mışovul' is a calque of the expression "grey mouse" (obviously from ), or as in or . The Polish definition is a 1 to 1 match. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 20:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Interesting. In English the color of the figurative mouse is not mentioned.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:31, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, I was doing some talk page stalking and saw this discussion. The Internet Archive looks like it has two uses, but they don't seem very enlightening since they're just lists:
 * Heyvanat aləmi Amur-Ussuriya və Sibir tayqa faunası komplekslərinin növləri ilə təmsil olunur: samur, ağdöş ayı və qonur ayı, maral, cüyür, uçan sıncab, mışovul, burunduk səciyyəvidir.
 * Çöl qurşağında sünbülqıran, dağsıçanı, çölsiçanı, qartal, meşələrində ayı, vaşaq, samur, mişovul.
 * There may be more helpful uses when searching the full declination paradigm. &mdash;The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 20:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * From my searching, I get a lot of hits for this collection works translated in Azerbaijani which may be useful for confirming the intended meaning of uses. &mdash;The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 20:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Which search terms exactly are you using? I get zero hits. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Based on previewing u at, I've searched for mışovulları, mışovula (also here), mışovullara, mışovullar, (also here). &mdash;The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 22:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not wise to rely on modern translations, encyclopaedias or other literary creations for determining the sense of a word. Authors of such works usually use whatever is found in dictionaries. If a standard Ru-Az dictionary translates ласка as mışovul, then the author will use mışovul in the sense "weasel". It is better to look at dialectal records to see how people use the word naturally. Here are some dialectal attestations of this word: pages 336, 359, page 106, page 49. See if you can figure out the meaning from context. I also found Karabakh Armenian, apparently borrowed. I think it is Mustela nivalis. Vahag (talk) 13:03, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't tell what's going on there. One of them swims, I think, and the other eats plant matter.  Does ovul have any meaning as a suffix?  There is  mışovul and there is, both animals. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 14:40, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * According to, forms verbal nouns and agent nouns from verbal stems. It is found in several animal names that are etymologically agent nouns but whose verbal stem is obscure: , , . In my opinion,  in  can be compared to muš-, miš-, mɨš- in Turkic words meaning "cat" mentioned here: . Vahag (talk) 15:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * So you did lay hold of Sevortyan 1966! Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:55, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It wasn't difficult. Many Russian bookinists carry it. Vahag (talk) 18:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If I search for мишовул I get a few hits. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Azerbaijani compound-like templates
Hi. I see you've created a bunch of compound-like templates for Azerbaijani usage but with cryptic and generic names. E.g. abred, iz1, iz2, iz3, pcp-cmp, possibly others. Any objection to me prefixing these with  and removing the language code? We should not be creating unnecessary generic templates. Benwing2 (talk) 21:29, 14 July 2023 (UTC) Chuck Entz (talk) 23:50, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Perhaps no one is using them for other languages, but the derivational mechanisms they are supposed to capture are of course not limited to Azerbaijani. In that sense, they can be used for other languages. Unless you use these, how do you put in ablaut reduplication, the well-known three types of izafet found in all Turkic languages or participle compounds in the etymology section? Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 04:50, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have never heard of any of these processes so I suspect they are limited to Turkic languages. If so, they should have a  prefix (and IMO less obscure names).  Benwing2 (talk) 04:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * BTW I'd recommend adding glossary entries for each of these processes and linking to them, otherwise it's not at all obvious what is going on. Benwing2 (talk) 04:59, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ablative reduplication is present in Germanic:, . Btw, why did you change it from compound to affix? Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 05:07, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This sort of reduplication with vowel change is common in many languages but I would not call it "ablaut reduplication", because "ablaut" has a specific Indo-European meaning that is not the origin of these reduplications. Also I renamed compound -> affix because the code largely handles affixes rather than compounds, and the affix template subsumes compounding. Benwing2 (talk) 05:57, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That's not what the entry ablaut says. Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 06:00, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Please see . Benwing2 (talk) 06:07, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * BTW unless you have objections to the other templates being renamed, I'll go ahead and rename them. Benwing2 (talk) 06:08, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Which ones do you want to rename again, and to what? Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 06:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I Googled "ablaut reduplication" and I see it being used to refer to cross-linguistic processes so I'm fine keeping that as generic, but iz1, iz2 and iz3 are clearly Turkic-specific so I want to rename them to trk-iz1, trk-iz2, trk-iz3. As for pcp-cmp = "present participle compound", if this has a special meaning in Turkic morphology then it can be kept under the name trk-pcp-cmp or maybe better, something less obscure like trk-prespart-com. If it does not have a special Turkic meaning but simply means "a compound one of whose elements is a present participle", then this should be deleted; the generic af or com template with present participle or similar attached to the participle should be sufficient. Note that the values for the pos param can be abbreviations; I'm not sure if there's an abbreviation for present participle but I can easily add one. Benwing2 (talk) 06:52, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * >but, and  are clearly Turkic-specific so I want to rename them to , ,
 * Fine
 * >the generic or  template with pos or similar attached to the participle should be sufficient.
 * What happens to categorization in that case? If the categorization goes down the drain, I object.
 * Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * What is a "present-participle compound", and what is special about it? Can there be "past participle compounds"? Are these merely arbitrary compounds of participles and something else? If so why do we need to categorize them in the first place? I'm not discounting your concerns, but I'd be concerned about attempts to categorize compounds by part of speech because there are so many parts of speech that can form part of a compound. We already have a whole system of compound types (e.g. dvandva, exocentric/endocentric, specializations such as karmadhāraya, tatpuruṣa, etc.) specified through the type parameter to affix or compound; does one of those not work? Benwing2 (talk) 07:35, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * >karmadharaya, tatpuruṣa
 * Speaking about obscure names...
 * Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 07:39, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That's neither here nor there, as they say (since it doesn't relate to the substance of my questions). Benwing2 (talk) 07:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have a difficulty with people saying "what do we need that for". Well, what do we anything for. So I say: I don't have an opinion on renaming things, but I object removing categories just based on the argument "what's special about that category". If you want to make it az-specific, I'm fine with that though. Allahverdi Verdizade a.k.a. Verdi (talk) 13:42, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Internationalism
In the category in question, there is written ''Terms should be here preferably only if the immediate source language is not known for certain. Entries are added into this category by Template:internationalism; see it for more information.''

I've left it for ambiguous cases like jurnal, but for terms like dinozavr or dekabr, there is no doubt that they came through Russian. It's best to keep the category as unclogged as possible. Shoshin000 (talk) 09:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah I don't agree with Vininn's opinion on what should be in that category. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 09:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why not? Shoshin000 (talk) 09:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Because an internationalism in Azerbaijani is a word of ultimately Greek, Latin or, to a lesser degree, English origin, which is also found in X number of languages, usually entering Azerbaijani via Russian. Not all borrowings from or via Russian, Greek, Latin, English (henceforth S) are internationalisms, and not all internationalisms in Azerbaijani are from or via S. The category is thus not simply the sum of all pages in any of the categories "Azerbaijani terms derived from S" Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * In any case you should settle that definition in the category. I personally prefer the current definition as something that gathers terms with etymologies that can't be further narrowed; when it comes to yours, I don't really understand the value it adds to the project. Shoshin000 (talk) 10:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There is no ambiguity for or for any other "internationalism" in the languages of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. All of them are through Russian. The only way a Sovieticus saw a Frenchman was by watching Fantômas, in Russian dubbing. Vahag (talk) 09:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Not true. Mamed could have heard it from Vazgen, who could have heard it from his auntie Louise who came "back" from France. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 09:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As an especially cultured, transnational force Armenians are unique and indeed have direct European borrowings like and, but they have hardly influenced a Mamed or a Givi in modern times. Vahag (talk) 12:12, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hahaha
 * More seriously jurnal may have entered through Ottoman Turkish ژورنال. It might be less likely than a borrowing from журнал, but by "ambiguity" I meant not 100% certain like for dinozavr or alkoqolizm. Shoshin000 (talk) 10:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Admin?
Still not an admin after so many a years! I would like to nominate you. Are you willing? Word0151 (talk) 06:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm all set for now. Thanks though. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Miscellanea edits
In Special:Diff/80182802, you moved “Category:sq:Geography” and “Category:fj:Four” from their language entries to the end of the page, and changed “ Gyn ” and “ She ” (both capitalized as the first words of usage examples) to “ Gyn ” and “ She ” (incorrect links). The category issue is also present in Special:Diff/80182242 and likely other “miscellanea” edits you made. J3133 (talk) 05:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * 👍 Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 16:10, 9 June 2024 (UTC)