User talk:Carl Francis/Archive 1


 * Perkins, Oljol, Bontilao, Eniego, Quiseo, Sultones, Surban, Bulhano, Dagwayan, Unajan, Manggana, Manipis, Dobluis, Sumabong, Etcuban, Olaer, Osmil, Sibog, Labial, Martus, Oro, Pelias, Pegarido, Batidor, Bayron, Bollozos, Bulanon, Jansen van Vuuren, Manguilimotan, Lapay, Indig, Bones, Cabayo, Panglao, Berongoy, Tribunalo, Bering, Cabagte, Catedral,Sayaw, Addenbrook, Tumamak, Helot, Hilot, Tuyugon, Tuyugan, Maupas, Hisoler, Mapait, Talingting, Pacilan, Abapo, Butalid, Altar, Tindog, Labad, Hinay, Tome, Sinangote, Balunan, Bañaga, Veracruz, Marijuan, Colegio, Tenidor, Bansag, Pelicano, Patriarca, Dalagan, Limbaga, Palaubsanon, Palad, Pahid, Binolirao, Bulak, Panganoron, Taactaac, Baron, Ligutom, Masaba, Gavin, Torregosa, Dauba, Gitgano, Cabaluna, Cabiluna, Clegg, Malantig, Bacolod, Good, Maluya, Gidayawan, Labadlabad, Bacal, Limbaga, Dalaguit, Impas, Palao, Maestrocampo, Maestrecampo, Obeñeta, Obenieta, Auditor, Subang, Pinote, Pinute, Habasa, Dumam-ag, Patong, Malantig, Modequillo, Medequillo, Quiroben, Quirubin, Bertulfo, Parisian, Meñosa, Miñoza, Purcia, Porcia, Sinaban, Silot, Mabilin, Clarion, Baclay, Libutan, Catana, Camansi, Monroid, Vacunador, Caharian, Cadongog, Cadungog, Tabiliran, Manugas, Lipat, Malanog, Olan-Olan, Humonong, Hijapon, Luib, Jumao-as, Cabagsang, Hampac, Cabalhin, Tapayan, Amay, Alub, Lumaad, Lambo, Maru, Pajo


 * alsa og balay
 * kinakusgan
 * medyas
 * garote
 * Tukoy
 * muro
 * luvey
 * sekyu
 * bahogbahog b
 * yoyo b
 * bolang kristal
 * magabhian
 * mahaponan
 * mabuntagan
 * makadlawnan
 * buntagay, binuntagay
 * buntagon ang gabie
 * Miming
 * lapyahan
 * bakero
 * manokan
 * itlog pula
 * luy-ang karaan
 * tiniil
 * kinaang
 * sumbalik
 * luwaan
 * kwartahan
 * suplayer
 * suplay
 * prodyuser
 * kameraman
 * dramaturgo e
 * direktor
 * pakals
 * strikta sa personal
 * paktori
 * pabrika
 * botika
 * worker
 * hinol
 * karakter
 * kontrabida n, a
 * mari bisc
 * resepsyon
 * kondominyom, kondo
 * kolsenter
 * triplet
 * kwadruplet
 * kintuplet
 * sekstuplet
 * heptuplet
 * oktuplet
 * ukma sa ukto
 * isdaan
 * bakahan
 * bisagra
 * dayondayon
 * binangos
 * estebedor
 * mamuwak
 * doktor wakwak
 * kwak kwak
 * tsampyon
 * barker
 * martir
 * ang malas naa sa menteryo
 * ang demalas naa sa menteryo
 * adres
 * nag-ilis og adres
 * nibalhin og adres
 * himatyon
 * patyonon
 * dakponon
 * wanted
 * tupperware
 * parlor
 * parlorista
 * ingrata
 * magpakabuta
 * magpakabungol
 * buta bungol
 * estiker
 * eslogan
 * estratedyi
 * tenis
 * tenisan
 * pedikab
 * nar-es
 * kan-on humay
 * kan-on mais
 * humayhumay
 * gladyitor
 * donut
 * hamburger
 * hamburdyer
 * sokolet
 * sakolet
 * tagagawas
 * tagasulod
 * tigpamaba
 * manunulat
 * komparsa
 * kapehan
 * mangape
 * empanada
 * torta
 * utanan
 * subakan
 * sarsahan
 * sabawan
 * sinabaw
 * inangkat
 * angkat
 * espageti
 * pugong
 * Minggoy
 * Minggay
 * masolon
 * masol
 * maskulado
 * kulkog
 * residwal
 * Menzi
 * Peding, Fidela
 * Eugene
 * Maricris
 * Acion, Salvacion
 * Rodman
 * Bruce
 * Alladin
 * stik-o
 * Minang
 * ibabaw sa piano
 * baba ang papangitaon
 * feeler
 * piling
 * amping
 * Tiktik
 * manokan
 * tambokon
 * dauton
 * dakoon
 * datoon
 * bogoon
 * artehon
 * malditahon
 * malditohon
 * gamayon
 * layoon
 * ugahon
 * garaon
 * kusogon
 * hinayon
 * pinintalan
 * tinrabahoan
 * isogon
 * libaton
 * badlongon
 * badlongonon
 * martir
 * beato
 * kardinal b, p
 * kriminal
 * konbik
 * sibati drag f
 * atleta, atlet
 * bikini
 * balintuwad
 * aspirin
 * atame
 * kidhatan
 * siplat
 * makatabang
 * matinabangon
 * tabangan
 * tabang duot
 * bugog mama
 * bugog papa
 * tinaksan
 * tansan
 * mamon
 * anak sa bugoon
 * intrigera
 * mingawon
 * mingawan
 * salimuang
 * si Sally ug si Muang
 * lipayon
 * lalis
 * lalisan
 * lalison
 * trespasing
 * trespaser
 * barista
 * akrobat
 * insulares
 * pentel pen
 * ruler
 * salamander
 * sampler
 * sampol
 * mamerya
 * showing
 * sinukaan
 * kinalibangan
 * kawras
 * kawrat
 * kambras
 * tabtaban
 * huot
 * suot
 * plete
 * pamilete
 * pletehan
 * gasolina
 * baterya
 * karburador
 * hinawayon
 * linubtanay
 * porum
 * landslayd
 * bilding
 * imprastraktura
 * propedad
 * establisimento
 * matahari
 * gera
 * distrito
 * distrito komersiyal
 * komersiyal
 * ayudante
 * awtoridad
 * radikal
 * haruhay
 * sabdyek
 * asaynment
 * hinabako
 * panglawas
 * tinubigon
 * tungab
 * dat-ol
 * makadumdon
 * makatultol
 * seminar
 * awtor
 * reporma
 * agraryan
 * relokasyon
 * ignoramus
 * tapsing
 * regularisasyon
 * pagpanuweldo
 * enrolment
 * enrol
 * Korte Suprema
 * alahero
 * kalas
 * mangalas
 * alay mahjong
 * karakter
 * bintos
 * sekret
 * sagasa
 * kang
 * kaon
 * trayo
 * witing
 * palabay
 * bunot
 * syete pares
 * karnabal
 * singit
 * ponging
 * duotduot
 * hinol
 * bunot alay
 * bunot syete pares
 * bunot labay
 * balaw Bikol Acetes indicus
 * Agukoy Ocypode ceratophthalmus
 * Agokoy Ocypode cordimanus
 * Agoyokoy Ocypode ceratophthalmus
 * Agoyokoy Ocypode cordimanus
 * alagokoy Ocypode ceratophthalmus
 * alimango Scylla serrata
 * amahong Septifer bilocularis
 * aninikad Strombus urceus
 * bagongon Telescopium telescopium
 * bagulan Trachysalambria fulva
 * bakalan Arca ventricosa
 * bakan Anadara antiquata
 * balisa Arca ventricosa
 * banagan Panulirus homarus
 * Banagan Panulirus longipes
 * Banagan Panulirus ornatus
 * Banagan Panulirus penicillatus
 * Banagan Panulirus versicolor
 * Banagan Panulirus longipes
 * basa Tridacna maxima
 * batotoy Arca ventricosa
 * boktutay Fenneropenaeus merguiensis
 * budyong Cassis cornuta
 * buktot Penaeus semisulcatus
 * bulatok Turbo marmoratus
 * bulik Marsupenaeus japonicus
 * Bulik Melicertus latisulcatus
 * bungkawil Strombus canarium
 * dawat Portunus pelagicus
 * Dawat Thalamita crenata
 * Dawat Thalamita danae
 * diwal Barnea manilensis
 * fatus Birgus latro
 * gubaguba Tutufa rubeta
 * hagdanhagdan Tridacna squamosa
 * hagdanan Tridacna squamosa
 * hipon suaje Metapenaeus ensis
 * imbaw Dinocardium robustum
 * kagang Thalamita crenata
 * KagangCebuanoCardisoma carnifex
 * kalampay Varuna litterata
 * kantugas Charybdis natator
 * kapis Placuna placenta
 * kasag Charybdis feriatus
 * kasag Portunus pelagicus
 * Kasag Portunus sanguinolentus
 * kasingkasing Dinocardium robustum
 * kasway Podophthalmus vigil
 * krusan Charybdis feriatus
 * kuakit Trachysalambria fulva
 * kukong Hippopus hippopus
 * kukong kabayo Hippopus porcellanus
 * lambay Portunus pelagicus
 * lampirong Placuna placenta
 * laong Turbo marmoratus
 * let-le Tridacna crocea
 * liswi Strombus luhuanus
 * litub, litob Arca ventricosa
 * lukot Dolabella auricularia
 * Lucot Dolabella auricularia
 * lukaylukay Caulerpa sertularioides
 * lumayagan Scylla serrata
 * lumbalumba Stenella longirostris
 * lunhan Fenneropenaeus indicus
 * Lunhan Fenneropenaeus merguiensis
 * mani-it Thalamita danae
 * mania Thalassina anomala
 * manla Thalassina anomala
 * manlet Tridacna maxima
 * manlot Tridacna maxima
 * mawik Ranina ranina
 * mayahon Lagenodelphis hosei
 * mestisa Metapenaeus endeavouri
 * mestisa Metapenaeus ensis
 * Mestiza Fenneropenaeus merguiensis
 * nukos Sepioteuthis lessoniana
 * nokus Loligo vulgaris
 * uyap Acetes erythraeus
 * oyap Acetes intermedius
 * Oyap Acetes sibogae
 * pansat Penaeus monodo
 * pantat Marsupenaeus japonicus
 * pantat Penaeus monodon
 * paragparag Ashtoret lunaris
 * pisospisos Circe scripta
 * pitikpitik Ibacus ciliatus
 * Pitik-pitik Thenus orientalis
 * punaw Glycymeris reevei
 * putian Fenneropenaeus merguiensis
 * sali-ot, saliot Lopha cristagalli
 * Sali-ot Tridacna maxima
 * samong Trochus niloticus
 * san francisco Charybdis feriatus
 * sigay Cypraea moneta
 * simongTrochus niloticus
 * sisi Saccostrea cucullata
 * sugasuga Portunus pelagicus
 * Suga-suga Portunus sanguinolentus
 * Suga-suga Scylla serrata
 * Suga-suga Thalamita crenata
 * suliut, suliot Arca ventricosa
 * tahong Perna viridis
 * Tahong Modiolus metcalfei
 * taklobo CebuanoHippopus hippopus
 * taklobo Tridacna derasa
 * Taklobo Tridacna gigas
 * Taklobo Tridacna squamosa
 * Takobo Tridacna gigas
 * talipsay Amusium pleuronectes
 * tambayan Codakia tigerina
 * tambuli Cassis cornuta
 * tikodtikod Spondylus squamosus
 * Tikod-tikod Pitar citrinus
 * tilang dako Tridacna gigas
 * tipay Arca ventricosa
 * tipay Placuna placenta
 * tipay Pinctada margaritifera
 * tuwad Trochus niloticus
 * tuyom Diadema setosum
 * ulang Macrobrachium rosenbergii
 * umang Birgus latro
 * ungkog Cardisoma carnifex
 * wasaywasayMalleus malleus
 * Sali-ot Tridacna maxima
 * samong Trochus niloticus
 * san francisco Charybdis feriatus
 * sigay Cypraea moneta
 * simongTrochus niloticus
 * sisi Saccostrea cucullata
 * sugasuga Portunus pelagicus
 * Suga-suga Portunus sanguinolentus
 * Suga-suga Scylla serrata
 * Suga-suga Thalamita crenata
 * suliut, suliot Arca ventricosa
 * tahong Perna viridis
 * Tahong Modiolus metcalfei
 * taklobo CebuanoHippopus hippopus
 * taklobo Tridacna derasa
 * Taklobo Tridacna gigas
 * Taklobo Tridacna squamosa
 * Takobo Tridacna gigas
 * talipsay Amusium pleuronectes
 * tambayan Codakia tigerina
 * tambuli Cassis cornuta
 * tikodtikod Spondylus squamosus
 * Tikod-tikod Pitar citrinus
 * tilang dako Tridacna gigas
 * tipay Arca ventricosa
 * tipay Placuna placenta
 * tipay Pinctada margaritifera
 * tuwad Trochus niloticus
 * tuyom Diadema setosum
 * ulang Macrobrachium rosenbergii
 * umang Birgus latro
 * ungkog Cardisoma carnifex
 * wasaywasayMalleus malleus

Chuck Entz (talk) 18:32, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

A few problems with your etymologies
Hi, I have had to fix up many of the etymologies you provided, so I want to let you know. Thank you. —CodeCat 17:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * should only be used for twice-borrowed terms: when a term was borrowed from Cebuano into another language, and then Cebuano borrowed that term back again.
 * should always have the  parameter. Or better still, use, as  is a bit obsolete.
 * Sanskrit terms should be given in Devanagari script. If you don't know how to write it, give the transliteration with.

# in synonyms
Hi Carl. We use bullet lists (with *) instead of numeric lists (with #) in sections other than the one with the definitions. If you need to link to a specific sense, you can use the template. — Ungoliant (falai) 18:31, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hi. When creating a new page, could you leave the edit summary box blank? This allows us to see the actual page contents in Recent Changes. Thanks! Equinox ◑ 08:05, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Babel
Carl, you need to add a babel box to your userpage at Carl Francis. Here is an example, but you need to adjust it so that it reflects your language ability. Please let me know if you need any help with it. —Stephen (Talk) 22:38, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, we don't treat Filipino as a separate language from Tagalog, but the Babel system doesn't know that. WT:LOL has our list of languages and language codes that we consider valid, and WT:LANGTREAT has explanations for many of the languages we don't recognize. I know you know that, but I didn't want us to make it any more confusing for Carl than it already is by giving unintentionally misleading examples. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Nested suffixes
Hi. In the entry sinugdanan, you typed:

⟨ceb⟩

I replaced it by:

⟨ceb⟩ +

My point is, I think it's better not to nest suffix templates repeatedly. The template (or ) recognizes suffixes and prefixes automatically by the placement of the hyphen. Unfortunately, does not support infixes, that's why I kept the  separately. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 05:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

taga
Why did you revert my bot? DTLHS (talk) 23:39, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding those you call "useless" categories
As you said on my talk page, I am adding "useless categories". But no, one category you removed on one entry I edited is related to basic words, or words being taught to a learner of a language. If you now know what those "basic words" mean, such as in Category:Cebuano basic words, then you may provide me a list of words considered basic (or taught to a learner), so I can categorize them under it. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:00, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano surname entries
If possible, use the surname template when adding entries to Cebuano surnames, rather than adding "a surname" and adding the category Category:Cebuano surnames. Also, please add the etymology and language of origin (in the surname template) when known. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 04:50, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

"de", "dela/de la", "delas/de las", "del" and "delos/de los" in surnames
Please take note that the particles "de", "dela/de la", "delas/de las", "del" and "delos/de los" from Spanish surnames used in Cebuano should be always in lowercase, so the Cebuano entry for "dela Cruz" is not "Dela Cruz". I am redirecting the surnames with those uppercase articles to the one with the lowercase particles. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 11:23, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Also, please note that capitalization of "dela/de la", "delas/de las", "del" and "delos/de los" in surnames are only capitalized in indexing, but those are always in lowercase. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 11:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Language separator
Hi. When you add a new language section (e.g. katmon), remember to add the "" line. Otherwise we are going to confuse a lot of bots. Thanks! Equinox ◑ 02:15, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Surname entries: please use the surname template
Again, please use the surname template on surname entries you create. Being non-English is not a reason not to use that, and the template will remove the need for you to add the category manually. You did use the surname template on surname entries you created at first, but you soon resorted on adding it yourself, manually. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 10:47, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

temp:etyl
Hello. Might I ask you to stop using ? We're phasing it out and replacing it with (and  /  when appropriate). Thank you! --Barytonesis (talk) 10:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano word dagan
May I know why my edits got reverted? --Josefwintzent Libot (talk) 04:59, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit war on the Dela Cruz entry for Cebuano
. Please give me a reason why not to change the definition of the surname Dela Cruz into a template-based one (using the surname template), that eliminates the need to add the definition and category yourself. And why would you call me a vandal, and that is all an ad hominem attack? I do not want this editing conflict to worsen, so please, stop reverting my constructive edits and insist on creating surname entries in Cebuano using a manually written definition and category. Thanks.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 06:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Please reply.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:54, 22 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, Carl. I'm an admin, and I'd like to second TagaSanPedroAko's request that you use standard templates like in your entries. There is no reason not to do so in your entries, and correct formatting makes it more possible to improve our dictionary. If you do not listen, there are potential consequences, but you have been a prolific contributor and I would really like to avoid doing anything that hinders your contributions. Please follow these formatting tips, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask me. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:59, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

English entries
Remember to use en-noun and not ceb-noun! Equinox ◑ 14:31, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano surnames in Tagalog
Please do not remove native Cebuano surname entries where they occur also in the Tagalog-speaking areas. Please consider that those surnames will be present elsewhere even where Cebuano is not the native language. I have to undo those for the reasons they also occur in the Katagalugan, especially Metro Manila and CALABARZON, particularly Batangas. Thanks. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 02:21, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

withtext=1
This parameter isn't supposed to be used, so can you please not? Also, I noticed that you wrote the definition of as "an option". There is no need for the article here, just "option" is preferable. —Rua (mew) 20:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

A reminder
Hello. A quick : please don't use, it's deprecated. Use instead. Thanks. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 18:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

cachila
You say it is Spanish, but put in it Cebuano categories eg. "head|ceb|adjective". I'm confused. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * @Semper, this entry looks very off-base.
 * @Carl, where did you get any of this? As best I can ascertain,  is indeed a word in Spanish, but it certainly doesn't mean  in the Spanish language.  See the entry in the official Diccionario de la lengua española published by the Real Academia Española.  The given senses are:
 * Arg. y Ur. Pájaro pequeño, de color pardo con vetas oscuras y garganta y vientre amarillento, de hábitos terrestres, y que realiza vuelos acrobáticos en época de apareamiento.
 * Argentina and Uruguay. Small bird, of brown color with dark streaks and yellowish throat and belly, of terrestrial habits, and that performs acrobatic flights in time of mating.
 * Ur. Automóvil antiguo.
 * Uruguay. Antique automobile.
 * Ur. Automóvil viejo y deteriorado por el uso.
 * Uruguay. Automobile that is old and worn out from use.
 * The Spanish word for is  or.
 * HTH, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 09:28, 14 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Oxford Dictionaries has it as an informal noun meaning something like . SemperBlotto (talk)#
 * By way of additional reference, it seems there is a Cebuano term that means  -- http://www.binisaya.com/node/21?search=binisaya&word=cachila&Search=Search ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 10:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * And per that Oxford link:
 * Uruguay informal Automóvil antiguo, especialmente el de las primeras décadas del siglo XX.
 * Uruguay, informal: Antique automobile, especially one from the first decades of the 20th century.
 * This seems in line with the Academia entry above.
 * ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 10:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It is Spanish and only appears in the Spanish spoken in colonial Cebu Carl Francis (talk) 10:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I found a book that lays out a different derivation, La lengua española en Filipinas by Antonio Quilis and Celia Casado Fresnillo, published 2008. Relevant text (bolding below is mine, link here):

3.2.3 Metátesis Son my poco raros los casos de metátesis. Además de los que acabamos de ver, como recurso para formar grupos tautosilábicos (grabansos, klabera) or heterosilábicos (kompormiso, purbado, porpina, madrasta, padrasto), debemos mencionar en tagalo: eksena “escena”, argabyado “agraviado”; y en cebuano: katsila (&lt; esp. “castilla”) ‘español’, como nombre, y katsilaón o katsilán ‘español’, como adjetivo, pader ‘pared’. Cases of metathesis are very rare. In addition to those we just saw, as a resource for forming tautosyllabic ( [from ], [from ]) or heterosyllabic groups ( [from ],  [from ],  [from ],  [from ],  [from ]), we must mention in Tagalog:  “”,  “”; and in Cebuano:  (from ) ‘Spanish’, as a noun, and  or  ‘Spanish’, as an adjective,  ‘’.
 * This makes the case that is from .  Given also the semantics, the term cachila must derive from the Cebuano, and not from any Spanish source.
 * @Carl, @Semper, are either of you familiar with the formatting conventions for Spanish entries? I'm not.  Just as a user, I'd suggest the following:
 * Add an  section clarifying the source of this term.
 * Add labels that more clearly identify this as Cebuano Spanish.
 * Add usage notes clarifying how this term is used -- for instance, does Cebuano Spanish also include any term ? If so, when would a Cebuano Spanish speaker use, and when would they use ?
 * HTH, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 11:14, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No one speaks Spanish in Cebu these days. Not Cebuano since we don't use ch, ch came from Spanish. The Cebuano word is Katsila, ch -> ts. At present most still pronounce it with the ch sound. Kastila is fairly recent, and influenced by Filipino. Espanyol is almost never used except in media. Grabansos, klabera—LOL, these aren't even Cebuano. If not Spanish, probably Bisaya—that language the Spaniards made up, basically collected every word in the Visayan languages in to one. So, delete. Carl Francis (talk) 12:49, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Personal attacks
Please avoid adding personal attacks on the revert comment, like you did at the Agaton entry. While it exist also in Tagalog (as both name and surname), you seem to never agree with it, f. If you don't agree with what I am contributing, please discuss it on the talk page of the entry, before taking action. I am not a vandal, and I have been a busy editor in regard to Tagalog names and surnames, in addition to the Tagalog vocabulary. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 07:51, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * TagaSanPedroAko, It's not a personal attack, check revision history. You basically defaced the Cebuano entry and it's not the first time you did it. Plus, you don't follow formatting, you clutter up the entries you edit. Read WT:MOS on your free time. Carl Francis (talk) 07:56, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't find my formatting defacing, and I am using always correct formatting, yet I get in some mistakes. But, for what I know, those do not fall under vandalism (that's why I perceived the recent to be an attack on my sid3). I will say that is more of a format mistake. -TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 08:03, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

bantol
Are you sure about it being a and of Scorpaenopsis oxycephala? Both [[bantolon]] and WP have the camouflage grouper being a different species. DCDuring (talk) 15:56, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Names
Thank you for your contributions on Cebuano names. Given name and surname definitions are non-gloss definitions, defining what a term is, as opposed to what they mean. To separate them from translations, they are spelled in italics, they begin with an upper case letter and end in a period. If you remove the upper case and the period from templates, as in someone might think: "Is this the Cebuano word meaning surname?". Also by using the given name template for diminutives will add the name in several categories, and save time.--Makaokalani (talk) 17:34, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) a surname
 * Makaokalani The a surname you're talking about are entries that I created way before that I just don't have thd time to edit--yet. Also aren't non-English entries supposed to not end in a dot and not start with an initial capital letter? Cause I was using those in the beginning and people keep changing my edits, now I no longer use the dot and initial cap and now you're changing them.
 * It's no big deal, but surname and given name definitions start with a capital letter and end in a dot in every language. Translations don't. You may check, say, Chinese 丁: six translations and one surname definition; or check any random example in big surname categories. The wiktionary rules are complicated, and they keep changing...everybody makes small mistakes. I'm not asking you to fix your old edits, but why not use the templates correctly from now on? --Makaokalani (talk) 13:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. That is standard, and that's why the surname is created, so you don't need to type the non-gloss definition and the category, manually. So, that why I and Makaokalani is fixing many you've created, but, you insist on reverting them, and even linking WT:VANDAL in the edit summary (instead of addressing what you think is wrong with us). I know you may have no time using those important templates, but why revert our fixes? We are just following agreed editing standards, and nothing else.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 23:28, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Answering issues you point about my surname edits
The verifiability issue about the surname Lomocso (that you point out to be non-existent, because the correct form is "Lumocso") has not been resolved, but, please remember that I just saw that surname elsewhere (i.e. in the news), and it is better finding an attestation elsewhere by yourself (especially through the Quiet Quentin gadget, if you have activated it). And being just associated or "native" in Cebuano does not mean it can get a foreign-language entry. Like how many foreign language surnames (including those of us Filipinos) have became English surnames (with many bring romanized forms or anglicized) because of migration, there is no reason for a surname of a Cebuano speaker (e.g. Cabahug, Bayot, Dagohoy, etc.) to become Tagalog also, with Cebuano-speaking people with such surnames have been also in Tagalog-speaking areas, so, does vice versa (Tagalog surnames can exist in Cebuano).

Regarding the Lomocso verification issue, I know that it exists along with what you suppose to be the correct form, Lumocso. I know, my etymology for it is just an assumption (I'll change it to be Cebuano in origin rather than Tagalog).

And regarding my use of the Forebears surname statistics database, that is not an issue. I use it as a resource for surname statistics, though I limited it now to the appendices I am maintaining.

Regarding what you point with Licuanan, that is not a complete made-up creation I made without attesting use of it personally. Plus, that surname is verifiable to be Chinese in origin per one source I saw, but if you think it is from the Cebuano language also, why not add it?

The issue you are pointing with Alterado is that it is from Spain (due to Spanish etymology), but it is rather from the Spanish language (it is from the 1849 surname catalog, the Catálogo alfabético de apellidos), so, do not jump to conclusions that Spanish-origin surname originally existed in Spain (or even Latin America). Several Filipino surnames of Spanish origin (e.g. Academia, Alterado, Añonuevo Atendido, Cometa, Librada) are entirely created from other Spanish words not usually used as surnames, for the purpose of those catalogs, and if there are any in Spanish-speaking countries, they can be considered foreign.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 00:13, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Banawon and Banhaon: Visayan origin?
I created entries of these surnames (Banawon and Banhaon) in Tagalog that are apparently of Visayan origin (the ending -on/-won in such surnames are one likely indicator), but I'm not certain that they are. Can you help add their origin if you know? TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 23:39, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

"-anan" or "-an" and "-an"
As I researched online (in Binisaya.com's Cebuano Dictionary and Thesaurus, and on Mr. John U. Wolff's "A Dictionary of Cebuano Visayan"), I found out that there is a suffix "-anan" (therefore, separate but analogous to "-an"). I will change them to "-anan" assuming that you agree ;) (Search through words suffixed with "-anan" like tulganan, labhanan and kan-anan in Binisaya.com's Dictionary).--JamesVTorregosa (talk) 13:46, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * @JamesVin2orregosa LAWL! Good sources you got there. A dictionary that has been shunned by Cebuano speakers and an unreliable online dictionary fraught with errors and made up definitions.

Which is correct?
I am about to create these entries (napulog usa, napulog duha) but I'm not sure if I've got the correct spelling though... Is it with a hyphen or something else like an apostrophe? I know that you know it :) --JamesVTorregosa (talk) 12:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC) Good Day!
 * @JamesVin2orregosa napulog usa without the hyphen. binisaya.com's hyphenated entry is wrong. No need for a hyphen, the word already has a g from ug.
 * On the one hand, I hope that someone would have corrected it before people could see and spread the incorrect like wildfire (especially now that we have the internet). On the other hand, I thank you for your response --JamesVTorregosa (talk) 01:37, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

My surname etymologies: Please
Can you please stop that belligerent behavior regarding my surname etymology additions? I'm really adding an etymology you don't know, but you keep on insisting that I. My edit on the Ocaña entry is not outright vandalism, just constructive editing, and you better track the obvious vandals in Cebuano entries you maintain. I have a simple mistake on my addition, so that is not a good reason to report me as a vandal. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 22:40, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Guy and Pip
Hi. Are the two people known individually as Guy and Pip, i.e. "this is Guy, and that is Pip"? If so, the entry would be a sum of parts. Equinox ◑ 00:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi! Equinox ◑ 03:20, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

tugong
I think you have the wrong species. Shouldn't it be, Gnaphalium affine? The one in the entry is a New World species. G. affine is southeast Asian. DCDuring (talk) 16:00, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * @DCDuring Book says Laphangium luteoalbum specifically. This one here mentions Benguet—place where the source language is spoken.
 * Glad I wasn't BOLD. DCDuring (talk) 16:34, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * There are a large number of taxonomic synonyms. The genera seem closely related, all in tribe Gnaphalieae. DCDuring (talk) 16:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Names
I was just wondering why you add Cebuano to names like 'Michael' and 'Jennifer' where Cebuano is not a etymologically significant influence on these names, nor have they really evolved from their original spelling in their common usage. You just copy and paste the English definition under a Cebuano header, what is the purpose in doing so?

Cadmean fixen (talk) 00:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC)