User talk:ChromeGames

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Wu pronunciation
What's your source for word pronunciations? —Suzukaze-c (talk) 07:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Most often I use 上海话大词典 and think about how it sounds. For two-character words, it's usually not too surprising for it to be the two characters put together (word sandhi and not phrase sandhi, as WT:AZH/Wu describes it). But if you're asking about 合同 in particular, it's not in the dictionary; the Wu Chinese MiniDict and 吳語學堂 both give some hints, and 合唱 is in the dictionary. Of course this time there's the video you linked as well. ChromeGames923 (talk) 08:18, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Have you come across this list yet? Anyway, in case you come across any Wu Sinophones, consider learning from XiaomaNYC a thing or two. --Apisite (talk) 07:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen this list before, I'll keep it in mind. Could you tell me a bit more about it, like where the suspected pronunciations come from? ChromeGames923 (talk) 07:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I gathered various Wu pronunciations of individual characters and put them together. --Apisite (talk) 08:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Update: The category I made has been moved. --Apisite (talk) 12:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Standard in Taiwan
Hi, please note that the standard pronunciations of Taiwan are found in 國語字典 and 國語辭典簡編本, not 重編國語辭典修訂本. See 【音讀】Q4: 為何教育部各典對於同一字詞有取音不一致的情形？教學上應以哪一部辭典為依據？. RcAlex36 (talk) 09:48, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comment, I appreciate the information. Usually cross-checking many different dictionaries helps, but 鑿 seems to get a bit messy. For pronunciation 2, Hanyu Da Cidian gives "mortise" and "tunnel" under zào but notes that "mortise" is modernly pronounced záo. Kroll's Student Dictionary lists "hole; mortise" under zuò but also gives a middle Chinese pronunciation of dzawH (missing on Wiktionary), which I believe suggests a modern reading of zào.


 * Then for pronunciation 3, to be an alternative form of 糳 would suggest a pronunciation of zuò, in line with middle Chinese tsak (HDC and Kroll agree here, but I don't see these senses in many other dictionaries). Meanwhile the pronunciation of 鑿鑿 as zuòzuò seems like it might be literary (it's what HDC and Kroll also have), but Cross-Strait Dictionary then says that zuòzuò is standard in Taiwan and záozáo is standard in Mainland (as opposed to 國語辭典簡編 which seems to give záozáo in Taiwan).


 * Your judgement is probably better than mine, but it feels a bit difficult to untangle the differences between these mainland, Taiwan, and literary pronunciations. Thanks, ChromeGames (talk) 10:26, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

is being phased out. Please use instead. RcAlex36 (talk) 11:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)