User talk:Daniel Carrero

Vote
Hey. I forget how to add votes to the Timeline. Please add this one. I see no problem with inventing words in the vote. --Gente como tú (talk) 15:49, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. But it's really easy, just edit that box that pops up in your watchlist. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Proto-Indo-European redlinks
In 2016, you deleted Category:Proto-Indo-European redlinks. What was your reason for doing so? I am a bit confused by an explanation you gave in User talk:Daniel Carrero/2016. Was the rationale for deleting the PIE category the same, i.e. because you were “testing Module:redlink category and Template:redlink category to see if it was possible to populate all redlinks categories at once”? (Did you create it?) And, if so, why did you delete this category but keep certain others? — J&#8203;as&#8203;p&#8203;e&#8203;t 01:57, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The answer is this: Yes, I created and later deleted the PIE redlinks category.
 * Currently, we only have redlinks categories for a few languages -- see Category:Redlinks by language. Anyone can edit Template:redlink category and thus change which languages have redlinks enabled, including you or me. (unless there's some template protection, in which case people can ask an admin to do it)
 * Presumably, we should really only enable redlinks categories for a handful of languages when we are actually going to work with these categories. Ideally, I would like to keep redlinks categories for all languages. That's why at some point I really did enable redlinks categories for all languages, to see if that would work. But I quickly discovered that it's a strain on the server and it causes numerous entries to have module errors. I created and deleted the PIE redlinks category, and also Category:Chinese redlinks and others. Feel free to recreate the PIE category if you are going to work with it. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:30, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I get it now. Thank you :)  — J&#8203;as&#8203;p&#8203;e&#8203;t 02:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Template ws and the headword as synonym to itself
ws seems to generate "[WS]" even when the headword is identical to the page name. Thus, in WS:aircraft, the word "aircraft" in Synonyms section has a little "[WS]" to the right of it, in boldface.

As far as I remember, the template did not used to do that. Would you be able to change the behavior back? --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:11, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe it's fixed now. The problem was that the template was specifically testing for the existence of "Wikisaurus:aircraft" as opposed to "Thesaurus:aircraft". --Daniel Carrero (talk) 14:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Internet for attestation of words
Hi. I read several discussions recently from a few years ago (more notably this one) where you proposed a change to WT:CFI to allow for non-durably archived citations to attest entries. I just want to say I highly support this, and am sad to see that this discussion did not get anywhere since. Speaking from the perspective of a person who likes to make entries for English slang and informal terms, such a change would be exceedingly useful to our lexicon. It is quite often that I have to struggle through durable citations only, when the rest of the Internet contains so much more of what I'm looking for. Entries like Luafy have been deleted with comments like the one you see by the deleter: "RFV-failed, which is sad, because it clearly is used, just not on permanently archived media." The thing about it is that the "durably archived" sources were more abundant many years ago, such as 2005 for instance AFAIK, but this is 2018, a time when the Internet and social media, etc., are the biggest deal ever (I really don't know how else to say it). I highly recommend that we discuss this sort of thing further, since it is very important to Wiktionary's lexicon. These slangs/informal terms must be saved. . PseudoSkull (talk) 20:30, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I very much agree. I'm not around much these days, so I can't engage in discussion much, but there are words that are part of my everyday vocabulary that I have not found proper attestation for. It's been a while since I've checked for some of these words, so they might be attestable now, but the fact is that they were in widespread, common use at the time, and we didn't (and in most cases, still don't) include them because of our insistance on using durably archived sources, which naturally excludes many slang words that don't make it into print very often. It's valuable to include such words for the sake of history as well. How many Latin or Ancient Hebrew slang words have been lost to time because they didn't make it into the extant documents from those languages? Thanks for reopening the discussion. If you manage to put a good proposal to a vote, I'll make sure to support it. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:59, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't answer before. Yes, I'd still very much like if non-"durably archived" internet pages could be used for attestation purposes. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

This may interest you
https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21737551-challenges-urbanisation-globalisation-and-primacy-portuguese-fight-save —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:54, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I added Talian to WT:WE. I see it's easily citable from Google Books. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:14, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

latte
Oi Daniel. Você sabe como pronunciam esse italianismo em São Paulo ou outros lugares fora do Sul? — Ungoliant (falai) 16:20, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Olha, eu já ouvi algumas pessoas dizerem esse "latte" exatamente como o "late" do verbo latir. Como se fosse "Vou tomar um late."
 * É assim nesses vídeos do Youtube (não posso postar o link direto por causa do blacklist):
 * fVopYy4tqUU (nos primeiros 3 segundos)
 * iJ2WQIdymyg?t=45 (aos 45 segundos)
 * --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:17, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Obrigado. Eu fiquei surpreso em ouvir latte com /e/ em vez de /i/ no primeiro episódio da última temporada de Black Mirror. Foi a primeira vez na vida que eu ouvi /e/ atônico no final de uma palavra pronunciada em português padrão. Nem mesmo em outros empréstimos não-adaptados eu tinha ouvido isso. — Ungoliant (falai) 17:30, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * De nada. :) Realmente essa dublagem que você descreveu (eu não assisti) não é normal. Vai ver eles resolveram tentar imitar o sotaque italiano. Pode acontecer, mas quase nunca vejo alguém fazer isso. Por exemplo, alguém dizer "nerd", "croissant", "ronin", etc. com o sotaque original no meio de uma frase em português. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * (A não ser que o idioma em questão seja a língua materna dessa pessoa.) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Expansion?
Bom dia Danial, you wrote the fine Module:character info. When you look at e.g. 丁 you can see below of the character info-box another one, for commonscat. While the upper box has a defined structure and looks good, the lower box does not at all fit to it. Many many of these Chinese characters can be linked to a commons category; my idea is that with an additional parameter (or a similar module?) this link can be integrated in the ci-box, and it can look much finer. There seems no need to repeat one more the character; and it can really be done much better formatted! How do you think about it?  sarang &#x2665; 사랑 15:25, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't answer before. Yes, adding the Commons link in the character box seems like a good idea to me.
 * Module:character info should probably use character info from Wikidata, not from data modules as we still do nowadays. The idea would be checking Wikidata for all character info, including image, Unicode name, and also checking Wikidata for additional links such as the Commons link. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 19:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, sems very good. Hope you can do it! Regards -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 05:41, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Missing characters
Recalling your work on Template:character info/new and various characters, you may be interested in w:Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss. I seem to recall that some Unicode-encoded but never-used Korean characters are intentionally excluded from Wiktionary, but the rest (combining modifier letter v, various runes,...) probably deserve entries or redirects, if you want to add any. I'll try and add the runes. (Should wikt: ͮ redirect to ᵛ or should they all redirect to v/V?) - -sche (discuss) 20:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't answer before. Yes, at least in my opinion it would be nice if all characters and symbols either had entries or redirects.
 * Here's a suggestion. If ᵛ (LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL V) is used by itself in some way, perhaps as a phonetic character, then it should have its own entry. And the combining form can redirect to this new entry.
 * For instance, we have ⁿ (SUPERSCRIPT LATIN SMALL LETTER N) because it apparently has a few meanings. Apparently it's more than just a letter n formatted as superscript. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

D. Dom
Hi D. Hope you're still earning money editing WT. The entry D. states it is an abbreviation of Dom. What's all that about? could it be for dom? It seems weird that "gift" or "talent" be abbreviated. --Gibraltar Rocks (talk) 17:29, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. I attempted to edit D. and Dom to clear that up. Let me know if they need anything else.
 * I've not been earning money with Wiktionary entries recently, or editing Wiktionary much these days. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Love you, DC. --Gibraltar Rocks (talk) 18:47, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

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MQP
mas que porra. Does this mean anything to you? --Vealhurl (talk) 18:39, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I deleted MQP for now. The expression "mas que porra" seems to be a sum of parts. This is basically just the vulgar interjection: "porra!" (meaning: "fuck!", "shit!") The "mas que" at the beginning is an intensifier, which is defined at mas.
 * It does not seem citable as an abbreviation. It seems normal to say "mas que porra" in Portuguese, but in my experience we don't often abbreviate it as "MQP". --Daniel Carrero (talk) 08:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Sweet, one thing removed from my cleanup list. --Vealhurl (talk) 18:02, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

〜
Thank you for separating languages: Special:Diff/13289369. As far as I know, Koreans use only the half-width letter ‹ ~ ›. If you agree, I’d like to delete the Korean section. Or we can discuss publicly on WT:RFV. What do you think? — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 04:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. After you sent this message, I deleted the Korean section from 〜. I guess just deleting it is OK, since I created that section in the first place. But I also wouldn't mind if you or anyone wants an RFV. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 04:29, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:58, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Template:table:seasons/bn
Greetings Daniel,

I am working on Template:table:seasons/bn but there is a problem. There are six seasons in Bengal as opposed to most of the world having four. The extra two are dry season and rainy/monsoon season. Is it possible if you could edit the original template and add those two optional seasons? The Bengali seasons also begin in summer, then rainy, then autumn, then dry, then winter, and finally spring. SalamAlayka (talk) 12:28, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

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Pali Request
Way back, on 13 June 2009, you appear to have requested and entry for the Pali word in Requested entries (Pali). Now a word does exist and has an entry. Did you mean a form with dental 'l' instead? If so, what evidence do you have for its existence? --RichardW57 (talk) 21:18, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. I don't speak Pali. Back then in 2009, the Category:Pali language had a list of requested words (in this revision), so I moved them to the page Requested entries (Pali).
 * That word was originally added in the description of that category back in 2005 by User:Novalis78~enwiktionary (category revision link), but that user has not been active since then.
 * If we should not have a Pali entry for, then I suppose it should be OK to remove it from Requested entries (Pali). --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:38, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information. It's now been created, but may fall by RfV.  It may be useful to have, but it's unclear to me whether it satisfies the Criteria for Inclusion. --RichardW57m (talk) 14:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for creating the entry and the RFV as well. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 15:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Template:table:
can you make a table for tastes like sweet/salty/sour etc? AleksiB 1945 (talk) 14:38, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I suppose we can try. I wonder if the table would have exactly sweet/salty/sour/bitter/spicy since they would be the "basic" taste words. Maybe this kind of table would not really need more specific words like oaky and garlicky. For reference: Category:en:Taste. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 15:49, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Most languages only have words for 5 or less tastes. Like the seasons table which only has the common season not ones like monsoon AleksiB 1945 (talk) 16:53, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see what you mean. That's a good point. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:11, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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