User talk:Djkcel/2017

ἐρείκη, RC:Proto-Celtic/wroikos, etymolgies
I don't see any explanation that would lead from to any of these descendants. Watkins is also not terribly reliable. — JohnC5 18:19, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was struggling a little with the connections they made as well. They put English briar, Greek ἐρείκη, RC:Proto-Celtic/wroikos, and Russian verst all in the same boat, e.g. as seen here Djkcel (talk) 03:07, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Interesting, so they're going for and not  as the origin. I'm not sure any of this is particularly convincing. What do you think? — JohnC5 03:16, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The Celtic (the source of Etymology 2 of briar, but not of Etymology 1)/🇨🇬 is thoroughly plausible, and 🇨🇬/🇨🇬, and I'm sure there are others, but trying to tie all those together to the same PIE root seems a bit ambitious, and their listing of reflexes of different stem consonants all jumbled together verges on misleading. By the way, I'm not so sure about their glosses: 🇨🇬 isn't heather, it's butcher's broom or knee holly, which is a short plant with fairly simple, straight stems and prickly "leaves" (technically cladophylls). Their inclusion of 🇨🇬 with the Celtic seems odd, especially since our etymology of 🇨🇬 says it comes from . I also don't see the connection with 🇨🇬- where does the "k" come from? The whole thing seems like a hastily-compiled afterthought that doesn't care too much about the details. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:05, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. Possibilities, but just that.  Djkcel (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2017 (UTC)