User talk:Istafe

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Again, welcome! -- Cirt (talk) 20:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Reply
Try here: commons:Commons:Media help. Hope that's helpful! -- Cirt (talk) 17:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, but it says it helps to play audio and video files, not upload. I don´t know how it is possible that other users are able to do so, this is too complex for me. If it was accepting all the formats (for example -.mp3, which I´m able to record in my computer), it would be easier to upload audio files for me and I believe also for other users. So I ask an another way: is it possible to upload audio files more easily than this very complex way? Thank you, --Istafe (talk) 10:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Reflexive forms
Welcome to English Wiktionary. I have turned sejít se and scházet se into secondary entries, following the current common practice introduced by me several years ago. See also mračit se and představit. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

špitál
"špitál" is definitely not obsolete (no longer used and understood): and. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:34, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

zichrhajska
"zichrhajska" is not attested:,. By contrast, "sichrhajcka" is attested in Google books. See also WT:ATTEST. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Czech audio files
The audio recordings for Czech that you have uploaded are of rather poor quality. There seems to be the sound of a clock in the background, and the audio recordings contain pauses before and after the word. Furthermore, "měnit" contains some sort of a clicking sound. There is also a lot of gray background noise. I am referring to the likes of File:Cs-kláda.ogg and File:Cs-měnit.ogg. Compare with the quality of File:Cs-kočka.ogg by Veronika Daňková. One thing that should make the recordings much better is if you find a quiet place where there is not much background noise, above all no sound of a clock. --Dan Polansky (talk) 15:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that was the best quality I could make... --Istafe (talk) 19:02, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I uploaded a file for nemluvě. Is the quality of this file better? --Istafe (talk) 15:03, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The quality is slightly better, but still quite poor; there still some sort of click in the background. Maybe having such a file is better than nothing, but I am not really sure. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * After having heard more of your recent audio recordings (File:Cs-nejlepší.ogg), I am inclined to think that they are worse than nothing. I mean, the least thing you could do is ensure there is no clock in the background. If you cannot do as much, it seems you should better not be recording at all. I have not heard any other audio recording of this poor quality in Wiktionary. Maybe you can ask your friends or family what they think of these recordings, or the teachers at the university if you are a student, so that you get more feedback than just from me.
 * I think you should not be making any English recordings, especially not in that poor audio quality, given that you are not a native speaker: File:En-polite.ogg. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:34, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Rhyme
"cheese" doesn't rhyme with "peace" etc. It is eez not ees. Equinox ◑ 14:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

skilful
Re: : skilful is still more common than skillful in British English, no matter what your reasoning may be; the keyword is "empiricism" and "verification". Just check the Wiktionary entries, and Google Ngram Viewer. Here is Google Ngram Viewer for "skilful", and "skillful" in British corpus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

spirálný
"spirálný" is not Slovak. Search Google books to verify that "spirálný" is not used in Slovak texts. As an auxiliary measure, check Slovak dictionaries, such as http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/.

In fact, the form "spirálný" is found in some Czech texts, even though it is rare:. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:10, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Horizontal lines
Language sections are separated by "" per WT:ELE. Hence my correction of your removal. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Etymology before pronunciation
Etymology comes before pronunciation, hence in "pomocník". Per WT:ELE. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Good job
You seem to be doing a fairly good job. I am making notes on your talk page to help you avoid beginner mistakes. I definitely do not want to scare you off :). --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for praising my job! I am going to try my best to not doing my mistakes. Istafe (talk) 07:33, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

IPA and Czech u
To my best knowledge, "ʊ" should not be used to mark Czech pronunciation.

From User_talk:Dan_Polansky/2011:

In its IPA pronunciation markup of short Czech "u" as in "kus", Czech Wiktionary seems to be using "ʊ" whereas Czech phonology uses "u". User "Emil J." argues in support of "u" at W:Talk:Czech phonology in a detailed, researched manner, leading me to tentatively accept "u" instead of "ʊ" until proven otherwise. For comparison, IPA "ʊ" is used in English "bull" and "pull". I have posted a question at cs:Wikislovník:Pod lípou, 28. 8. 2011. --Dan Polansky 11:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

An online source that confirms "u" over "ʊ" is http://www.phil.muni.cz/jazyk/files/fonetika/, and http://www.phil.muni.cz/jazyk/files/fonetika/ipa-pro-cestinu.pdf in particular, by M. Krčmová, mentioned in W:Talk:Czech phonology.

--Dan Polansky (talk) 20:29, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

With "u" it is difficult; different sources say different things. Look for example at Czech Wikipedia or here. Istafe (talk) 07:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Czech Wikipedia is an unreliable source. It should show which sources it has used for its "ʊ" claim, which it fails to do.
 * The source http://alef-0.eu/wiki/vyslovnost.php, which you have mentioned, is a source that states no author. It looks like one person's script. From the source code of the page ( "" ), it seems that the author is Honza Záruba, a person who has massive influence in Czech Wiktionary.
 * By contrast, I have referred to an academic source; W:Talk:Czech phonology contains a survey of academic sources. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:19, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Apostrophe
I have not seen anyone use accute accent as an apostrophe, as in "I´ve". Most people use the simple one ('), but some use the typographical one (’), as in "I’m". --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:46, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Greenlandic verb conjugation template 2
[moved to Jakeybean's talk page] --Istafe (talk) 15:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Questions
How exactly does the Slovak language even work? How many noun cases? How do verbs act? Etc.