User talk:Janebond

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Concerning Malaysiatic: The reason that I deleted the word is not because I feared it was promoting a company, but rather because a search showed it to not be in general use. Here at Wiktionary, we have a very strict policy of only including words that have widespread use. I'm sorry, but the only way we could include the word is if it was used in three independent printed works spanning three years (see the "Criteria for Inclusion" link above). If you like, you're more than welcome to put it on WT:LOP, but sadly that is the only place we can keep it. Atelaes 09:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Aaaaahhh, I thought so after reading your guidelines more thoroughly. I would be interested to know what you or your colleagues first impression was of 'malaysiatic'? Was it 'of or pertaining to Malaysia'? Actually I have just been to the tea room to ask this question, but I do not think I posted correctly as my question ended up in the same post as another poster! I do hope they are not too cross with me. From searching the internet I can only find 1 reference to the word so it may be some time until I can find further references to make it eligible for inclusion. Thanks for going to the trouble of answering as I thought I may end up going round in circles trying to find an answer. Best Regards. Jane. (Janebond 09:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC))


 * Firstly, I have sectioned off your comments in the Tea Room, so they are no longer imposing on the comments of another, so you have no retributions to worry about. :) Secondly, I will say that my first impression of the word was "of or pertaining to Malaysia."  Third, you're quite welcome.  Atelaes 10:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Atelaes, I will wait until the word meets the correct criteria before re-attempting to include Malaysiatic in your listing. (Janebond 11:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC))


 * Butting in: One great place to check on whether words are in wide use is Google Books. Also Google news and, for newer words, sometimes Google groups. Words that are only used in speech can be hard to include in Wiktionary unless a fiction author has put them in dialog in a book. The web as a whole and blogs are not considered acceptable sources for various reasons, including the susceptibility to organized campaigns to get a word "used" and the fact that much web content disappears.

One problem with "Malaysiatic" is that it competes with "Malaysian", meaning roughly the same thing, but requiring an extra syllable to speak. I actually thought it must refer to something other than Malaysia, but relating more broadly to language, people, or geography in the general area sharing some thing(s) with the country. DCDuring TALK 13:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)