User talk:Junpätil

Proscribed abbreviations
It is known that German abbreviations should contain a. It is misleading though to label these abbreviations as proscribed, as it is most likely a reader will relate this to the abbreviation itself, other than its typography. What you tried to express is more likely to be correctly understood if you create the abbreviations with narrow no-break space in page title, or move the pages thither, and then have the unspaced forms as proscribed alternative forms, as well the fully spaced variants as proscribed forms, since both are only approximations of the true, narrow-space forms.

Although not even that proscribedness is real. On the other hand practice accepts such spelling, and it is unclear why so many profess faith in the rulebook of the Duden-Verlag, unlike with English where we couldn’t care less what “the rules” are; the practice makes the rules. Legal commentaries have the abbreviations purposefully unspaced to save even more space, as I have noted in various place in daily use – in spite of otherwise complete typography –, so in particular also in, so one can also deem it standard. Fay Freak (talk) 20:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Space-less forms are proscribed, thus it's correct to say that is proscribed (though not necessarily uncommon). With  given as alternative form and having an own entry, there's nothing misleading about the correct information. --Junpätil (talk) 21:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No. m.a.W. should be given as alternative form of m. a. W.. Then at least one could guess why it is proscribed. The way it is currently nobody sees why it would be proscribed. You have this label on every abbreviation basically, because every abbreviation is also written without spaces. Which is also why I deny we should label “proscribed” so indiscriminately. Fay Freak (talk) 21:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * On another note, why do you even think that the spaceless pages would be the proscribed forms and not the spaced pages. In the end Mediawiki converts the white spaces in links and page titles to mean spaces and we have to use the head to display the abbreviation most correctly, which we can do on either page. Fay Freak (talk) 22:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC)