User talk:Kaepoong

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Again, welcome! Tibidibi (talk) 12:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Dialect location
Hello, and thank you as always for your contributions. When you add dialectal usage examples like in, would it be possible for you to add which dialect this example is from (with ko)? You can see an example at. Thanks in advance!--Tibidibi (talk) 12:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


 * May I also humbly suggest adding a link to the original source whenever possible? Firstly for accountability / reliability, and secondly because readers might simply find the rest of the content there interesting. —Fish bowl (talk) 07:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh no problem, I'll start linking the sources. Thank you for your suggestion. Kaepoong (talk) 07:23, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

North Korea
Hello, thank you for creating. About Etymology 2, do you happen to know people from the North Korean portion of Gyeonggi province? 혹시 한국어가 더 편하시다면 한국어로 답해주셔도 괜찮습니다.--Tibidibi (talk) 11:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

My family originally were from the North Korean portion of Gyeonggi provinces, but for this case I learnt about the phrase from a defector who hailed from Kaeseong few years ago. There's also a (different) defector from near Kaeseong that posted a video in YouTube where she converses with a defector from Kaepoong county and they also 디대(사람) in a similar way to the definition I provided. I could reference the video if needed. Kaepoong (talk) 13:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Two suggestions
Hello, thank you for adding various dialectal words. Two suggestions:


 * For words where the etymology is identical to the Standard Korean one, or trivially derived from it, please use alternative form of. Examples:, . For terms used in multiple dialects, alternative form of is possible.
 * Consider using ko to add the dialect where usage examples are from, as in.

Thank you in advance, and please don't hesitate to add more entries!--Tibidibi (talk) 13:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Just one more thing, please always use # instead of *. Thank you!--Tibidibi (talk) 11:59, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That is to say, the definition should be with #, and a usage example or quote should be with #:. See right now.--Tibidibi (talk) 12:02, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Etymology
Hello, thank you for your many dialectal edits. As a note, it’s not necessary to add “of native Korean origin” if it is obviously just a dialectal variant of a standard form, as is the case with 너리다 or 나리다. This is because the etymology is given in the main entry anyways.--Tibidibi (talk) 06:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)


 * In addition, please use quote-web and #* instead of ux and #: when you are finding quotations from 구비문학대계 or other websites online. This is because ux and #: is for examples that you come up with on your own. Thanks!—Tibidibi (talk) 06:19, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the feedback! I will consider them from now on. Kaepoong (talk) 11:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Where did you bring North Korean dialect forms?
I sometimes read pages you edit, and I find some North Korean words that cannot be cross-verified by the materials I have. For instance, I couldn't find 면들레, 잔잘나비 and 필롭다 from 한민족 언어 정보화 프로그램, Choy hak-kun's 한국방언사전, Hwang tay-hwa's 황해도 방언 연구, Kim pyeng-cey's 방언사전, Kim yeng-hwang's 조선어 방언학 and so on. Materials on North Korean variants are rare, so I wonder if you have other materials that are not well-known to the public. May I ask what materials do you use? --Crayontoast (talk) 21:33, 8 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry for replying quite late as I have been busy for the past few months but yes that is my fault; I hadn't been consistently cross-verifying some North Korea words with the sources I have available, and I may have relied too much of my own exposure to North Korean varieties of Korean, particularly to the Hwanghae dialect, as well as oral accounts. For 면들레 you can find that it is listed as being from the 'Jeolla' and 'Pyeongan' dialects on 우리말샘 while for 잔잘나비 you can find similar forms (잔잘래비 and 잰잘라비) having been recorded on the same website here, as well as in 황해도 방언 연구 by 황대화 I believe. In hindsight, being an open dictionary it's not the best place to cross-verify, so I will verify with more academic sources (like the ones that you mention above) for any other additions I make. I couldn't find anything on 필롭다, so I won't mind if somebody wants to delete the entry due to lack of academic evidence. Kaepoong (talk) 01:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC)