User talk:Lazarus1907

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--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 21:56, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

cor
Hi Lazarus. None of those terms derive directly from Latin : — Ungoliant (falai) 19:41, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * acordar is from ;
 * acordeón is from German ; the Latin root is, again ;
 * coraje is from Old French
 * coral is a derivative of the Spanish word (which can be listed)
 * cordial is from
 * misericordia is from
 * recordar is from

Hello again, Thanks for such a detailed explanation! I do appreciate your time and patience and I'm glad to see that I've been corrected by someone more knowledgeable than me. Let me see if I get this: So, for some reason, this list should not list any descendant which are compounds using the root "cor" (e.g. concordo, recordor, discordia...), right? If so, can I ask who made this decision in the first place, and why? (if you don't mind answering yet another question). Thanks in advance and kind regards.
 * "Recordar" comes from Middle Latin "accordāre", not directly from "cor".
 * "Acordeón" indeed comes from German Akkordion (through French accordéon), if I'm not mistaken, coined by a Viennese musician after Vulgar Latin *accordare (from ad- + cor), so not a direct descendant.
 * "Corage" seems to be "corages", from Middle French, so it is obviously out.
 * Why is "coral" then not listed in your correction?
 * "Cordial" indeed comes from "cordiālis", and "recordar" comes from "recordor".

— User:lazarus1907 (User talk:lazarus1907) 23:55, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I don’t know if anyone made the decision explicitly, it’s just the common practice; indirect descendants have always been removed by various editors. The reasons for this become clear after you spend some time editing Wiktionary: it clutters the descendants section and causes unnecessary duplication of content (for example, the Spanish word would be have to be listed as the descendant of, , ,  and ).
 * Admittedly, this practice is kind of hypocritical because terms derived from Latin indirectly with regards to loaning or inheritance are included (for example, lists  as a descendant, but in fact its immediate etymon is the Old Spanish word ). — Ungoliant (falai) 00:16, 24 December 2014 (UTC)