User talk:Msh210/Archive/Roslyn

User:Roslyn
Hey, Special:Contributions/Roslyn is appealing their block (from a long time ago). Based on a brief reading of their actions I can see why you chose to block them, but they are probably right that it didn't need to be indefinite. What are your thoughts? - TheDaveRoss  14:51, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Having read the ticket and reviewed the blocked editor's actions, I still see no reason that they should not remain blocked. They never listened to anyone else, and seem intent on continuing where they left off. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:32, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * : There are a number of problems I see with this scenario.
 * The users first block was indefinite, despite that their edits could easily be construed as good-faith attempts by a person unfamiliar with our standards and practices.
 * They re-added reverted material a number of times, but that may well have been because nobody bothered to communicate what was happening to their edits until a couple of days into the conflict.
 * Prior to being blocked, they attempted to initiate conversations with other editors about the changes they proposed and were met with silence.
 * We assume too often that the people on the other end of conflicts are as experienced as we are, and we assume that poor edits are also bad-faith edits. While I don't think that this person's attempted contribution was correct, our collective handling of the situation was miserable. This is a case study in how not to treat new editors, and is also an excellent example of the Wiktionary welcoming committee.
 * Perhaps this conversation should move to the BP if Msh is not around and we want to discuss it further. I am interested to hear from others about whether I am off-base in my reading of the situation as well. - TheDaveRoss  18:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping, TDR. I just reviewed Roslyn's contributions and surrounding discussion. I don't see the appeal you speak of; if it seems (from the appeal) that the new editing will be accompanied by better practices than those of nearly half a decade ago, then I see no reason not to unblock with the understanding that a repeat performance will have the same result as last time, and fast. Pinging also Metaknowledge. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 20:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was unclear, they appealed via OTRS. - TheDaveRoss  00:41, 16 August 2017 (UTC)