User talk:Oroya

* Phrase
Can you please stop adding "Phrase" to à toa? It's explicitly disallowed in WT:EL. Jberkel 11:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


 * So... I didn't notice I was doing something against the rules, haha. Maybe you can help me understand what I have to do: in Portuguese, à toa is a locução adverbial or a locução adjetiva. And it's of a major importance to not treat the expression as if it were one word.
 * Calling it only adjective or adverb is explicitly wrong and mischievous. What I need to do to see the more appropriate term being used to describe this conjunct of three words that forms this expression? Oroya (talk) 11:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * "Adverbs" here don't need to be single words. It's really a prepositional phrase used adjectivally/adverbially. We have the prepositional phrases header which could also be used, but I'm not sure what that would achieve. I've added the category to this entry, maybe that's clearer. – Jberkel 13:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't see why using more appropriate terms is wrong. I've thought about your answer and " It's really a prepositional phrase used adjectivally/adverbially" and this is kind of anglocentric to me, because phrases formed with prepositional phrases in Portuguese don't get just all inside of one concept like "prepositional phrase".
 * For example, the name "locução prepositiva" (literally the closest to something like prepositional phrase) is used only to describe words that together work like a preposition and thus entering in another classification when applied together with other words. For instance: <à toa> is formed by  (preposition) + a (feminine singular definite article) + toa (feminine singular noun), so the contraction of a+a = à, à is a locução prepositiva and together with toa, the expression <à toa> can be used adjectivally or adverbially as you said, but when I say something like , here <à toa> is considered a locução adjetiva working as a adjunto adnominal de pessoa . And if I say , now <à toa> is a locução adverbial de modo performing the function of adverb, but we know that English grammar distinguishes pretty well adverbial phrases from averbial clauses and single-wrod adverbs.
 * So, I fail to see why would someone try to simplify the concepts of one language as regarding them as unimportant... Oroya (talk) 15:05, 16 March 2023 (UTC)