User talk:Sarang

Sarang (talk) is primarily a user at the German Wikipedia &ensp; &ensp; and at Wikimedia Commons: sarang 사랑

Re: Bot request
Hi, Sarang.

Unfortunately, I do not have permission to operate a bot here for jobs other than interwiki linking. For other things, I will need to ask for permission here, with details of what is to be done. Malafaya 15:41, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * In thought that is interwiki linking, to a sisterproject, so I asked you. Do you know which bot will be suitable for that? -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 15:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't know if it was interwiki linking. You didn't tell me what the work was about :). I'm restricted to interwikis among Wiktionaries, and with some local rules. For a list of bot and what kind of operations they run, check WT:BOT. Malafaya (talk) 14:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think I actually could, as it I don't know how to. Can I ask, what do the radical numbers refer to? If I were you I'd ask or, who both run bots and are more technically able than I am. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:08, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think I actually could, as it I don't know how to. Can I ask, what do the radical numbers refer to? If I were you I'd ask or, who both run bots and are more technically able than I am. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:08, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Bot run
For the bot task, I provide a list of 207 lines, each line contains a number between 1 and 214 (no leading zeroes), and separated with whitespace, a Chinese glyph. It looks e.g. “9 人” - any other format can be arranged. Into the page Index:Chinese radical/人 the insert  is requested; for the line “140 艸” it will be the insert of   into  Index:Chinese radical/艸.

The same should be done with article page 人 resp. page 艸, to follow the above examples.

The insert should be at the page start, preceding any other content; it can be seen e.g. at 丨 and Index:Chinese radical/丨.

It will be a total of 471 inserts for the bot.
 * Variants: There are pages for the radical variants. It is only one page Index:Chinese radical/乙 but three corresponding pages, besides 乙 also 乚 and 乛. While 207 "Index:Chinese radical"-pages remain after a few inserts I did manually, 264 pages for the glyphs and their variants are remaining. My idea is to provide two lists, that seems to me simple for the bot task; another possibility is only one list of 264, either with built-in annotations, or the bot will have to check for page existence which will fail in 57 cases.

There are the lines of the short list:

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I will answer any additional question. -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 05:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:commonsrad
You know, you could have just moved the template and saved yourself all that work. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, first I thought about that, but then I changed a lot and liked it more to use the option for a new start. -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 17:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Floating "see images" at 月
Heya, saw your edit to the 月 page. I like having the link to the Commons images, but I think it would be more appropriate to have that in the Translingual section instead of as a float -- it's frankly plug ugly when it's overlaying/obscuring other on-screen text, and there are no other floating fixed elements anywhere else on WT (at least, that I'm aware of), so it's a bit jarring and disorienting from a style and usability perspective.

Would you be opposed to turning that into a right-side box in the Translingual section, similar to the Stroke Order boxes? -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 18:30, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Eiríkr, this box was a test. I know it can be tagging always to be persecuted by such a floating box. I tried that format because it seems difficult to place that link box where it suits any possible view. Thank you for your comment, I shall try something else. -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 09:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Eiríkr, I appreciate your comments. At the moment I left the floating box, and inserted more boxes for a discussion. The boxes in the Translingual section (T.ling1, T.ling2) show two of some possible positions, on other pages without pictures it may look different.
 * Some essential thing is that only the floating box, and that one at "Han character", can be inserted very easy. The box "before" and any Translingual box will need a bot run for all the 270 articles when they should get the link to the Commons.
 * Before any real insertion it should be checked how it looks with different views, TOC on or off, and the gadget "tabbed languages" enabled or disbabled. As soon as there is a consens and a decision whether and how it is wanted or not, I will continue with that linking. -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 10:26, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Han char
Hi! I've unprotected Template:Han char, so you can edit it. If you need any other templates unprotected, let me know. - -sche (discuss) 02:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am in good progress. For housekeeping (kann man das so sagen - ich meine aufräumen, in Ordnung bringen) I introduced temporary two maintenance categories, and I have to work them off. I'll tell you when I am ready and you may protect Han char again. Anything about layouts can be discussed, this will come later. -- sarang &#x2665; 사랑 18:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Ruakh
I've replied, belatedly, at User talk:Ruakh. Sorry for the delay. —Ruakh TALK 18:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Bushidō
Hello Sarang --

I recently reverted your categorizations related to bushidō. I'm afraid that bushidō itself is to some extent an historical fiction: the term only rose to prominence in the early 1900s, following the publication of Nitobe Inazo's Bushido: The Soul of Japan. Nitobe himself was fuzzy about the history, having focused on English and other western subjects in his youth, and then left Japan behind in 1884 at the age of 22. The book was written in 1899 in Pennsylvania, with likely no access to Japanese-language source materials.

While there was a body of thought native to Japan about how samurai should act and behave, it was not as formulaic or standardized as to have seven distinct virtues. That part was Nitobe's invention.

There are various articles available online that discuss this. See here for one such. Key quote:

[Nitobe] based his 1905 book Bushido: The Spirit of Japan on rules written for samurai. This is the equivalent of reading a high school handbook and determining that teenagers live by a strict code of attending class, and turning weed dealers in to the cops.

There's also a much longer and better essay about this, but I cannot find the link at the moment here.

Cheers, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 20:21, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you.  sarang &#x2665; 사랑 14:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)